What % of OW Divers Take Further Training...?

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And to ClayJar...
Warm clear water? You have that there? Dang, I'm going to pay a visit because where I come from, that stuff is in awful short supply. Seriously, though, I fear many of your dives are much like many of mine..."buddy, check; gear, check; can see my fin-tips, well, maybe..."
Sure makes those trips to the Carib special, though, doesn't it?
 
Going diving Sunday...projected temp is 45 degrees topside...less than that below...guess I am a committed diver...or should be committed!
 
Divin'Hoosier:
it amazed me how many people take and complete an OW course and yet NEVER DIVE AGAIN.

I believe the reason for that is diving through the OW training is no fun. I finished because I started but I honestly considered not diving again after I gained OW certification.
I recall my first dive after being certified. It was great, no one to watch, no tricks to perform, just a relaxed dive with a friend. Diving suddenly gained a whole new perspective for me and I realized it was what I imagined it could be. And the funny part is, I practice those tricks when diving and it is no big deal.
 
I think there were ten of us in my OW class. Two are pure WW vacation divers, and I don't know if they are still diving. Two took AOW and a couple of specialties, but then more or less disappeared, and again, I don't know if they're still diving. One has taken AOW and some specialties and I know is still diving. Two are in DM training, and then there's me. So it looks as though my original LDS is pretty successful in getting people into at least some further training. But it sounds as though that is not the norm.
 
Well, in my household... we have the range of divers..

I, myself, love diving and have done many advance classes. Dive about once a week.

My son, loves diving, but hasn't dont any advance and dives with me when he can.

My wife, OW cert but ONLY dives if the water is above 80 degrees. Tropical vacation.

My daughter... hates sharks and wont go near the water.
 
Carribeandiver:
I believe the reason for that is diving through the OW training is no fun. I finished because I started but I honestly considered not diving again after I gained OW certification.
I recall my first dive after being certified. It was great, no one to watch, no tricks to perform, just a relaxed dive with a friend. Diving suddenly gained a whole new perspective for me and I realized it was what I imagined it could be. And the funny part is, I practice those tricks when diving and it is no big deal.
When my LDS does their checkout dives, they do Friday at Vortex Spring, and they cover all the skills to be sure everyone has them down. (If you can't do it in the spring, your weekend is over and you'll have to try again later.) On Saturday, they make two dives in the Gulf out of Panama City Beach, and they do a quick recheck of the actual dive-related skills (mask clearing, etc.), but it's more of an orientation dive.

By the time Sunday comes around, you've shown you know all the skills and that you can make the dives, so you get to have a fun pair of dives without needing to demonstrate any skills outside of normal buddy diving (although on the deco bar at the safety stop, you'll probably be asked to clear your mask and do some other skills, just to pass the time). They tell you the whole time about how Sunday is just a fun day where you don't have to worry about being tested and can just use your skills (which is, of course, technically a lie, as the "fun" dives are actually your final exam, but they don't tell the students that).

I suppose I could understand how going through a class and checkout dives (and probably paying a pretty penny for it) and never really getting to have just a fun dive wouldn't be very good at grabbing people. I suppose you have to train your students enough to be able to "set them free" (-ish) for a dive or two.

Is it true (it may or may not be) that one (or more?) of the big agencies says that getting your OW cert only means you're capable of diving with a DM/instructor? I heard that somewhere. (My book said something like, "...certified to dive in the conditions in which you were trained..." or whatever.) If you go through an entire class and checkout and at the end they tell you you're not good enough to dive yet, I can see how that wouldn't be encouraging (although it may indeed be true with McDivers).

Lehmann108:
I'd go with "hyperbole" over "apocryphal."
If he believed the numbers were vastly exaggerated, "hyperbole" would be a reasonable term. However, if he believed the numbers seemed rather fabricated, "apocryphal" would be a better fit. I'd say "apocryphal" is more akin to "anecdotal" than to "hyperbole" (although "anecdotal" implies the story is true, in similar usage, it would be used to say that the story is true but the conclusion is unsupported).
 
Guba:
I'm sure that most of these stats exist. I just don't know how to find them.
Exactly my point. I know the numbers are out there, but not where... All posts have been guesses and estimates up to here.
 
ClayJar:
Is it true (it may or may not be) that one (or more?) of the big agencies says that getting your OW cert only means you're capable of diving with a DM/instructor? I heard that somewhere.
When I was diving the Red Sea my buddy was a lady from France. She was OW qualified from the French association (Sorry, cannot tell you the name, but it is the only one...) and she had to dive with a DM / Inst.

ClayJar:
If he believed the numbers were vastly exaggerated, "hyperbole" would be a reasonable term. However, if he believed the numbers seemed rather fabricated, "apocryphal" would be a better fit. I'd say "apocryphal" is more akin to "anecdotal" than to "hyperbole" (although "anecdotal" implies the story is true, in similar usage, it would be used to say that the story is true but the conclusion is unsupported).
Did you know that 27% of statistics are made up on the spot...? :D

Yeah, sorry about the funky word. I spend too much time on the Readers Digest "Enhance your Wordpower" column. After all, improving your vocabulary is really, really, really, ummm good...
 

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