What makes a master diver?

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stargazer61:
My other hobby is bridge, and our "master" certification has the following categories:

Junior Master
Local Master
Provincial Master
Master
National Master
Life Master
and finally
Grand Master (that's me :dork2: )

Think how much more profitable PADI could be with all of those options :eyebrow:

:rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:
My other hobby is fishing and I was a Master Baiter after the first day!
 
The problems mentioned aren't specific to diving. Take martial arts, for example. I've seen "masters" of forms who have never been in a fight. Technically, they are very sharp and IN THEORY should be able to take care of themselves. On the other hand, I know a fellow who is still rated a white belt (rank amateur), but the only way I'd want to be in a fight with the guy is if he's on MY side! In other words, he could probably wipe the floor with some grand masters, but he doesn't have any recognized standing.
We could make the analogies and expose the pitfalls of the current certification systems all day (and sometimes folks here on the board do just that), but it doesn't fix the problem--it usually only winds up in a comparison of different agencies with many folks beating their chests and proudly proclaiming "MY agency is better than YOUR agency". That gets old in a hurry.
Bottom line seems to be: If you want to earn the Master Diver designation, do so. The courses are designed to be enlightening and fun, and they're another excuse to go out and use up a tank or two of air. Who knows? You might even learn something. But the unspoken caveat is "don't wave the cert in another diver's face, because he/she might very well be far more experienced and skilled than you are." And don't think because you have the cert that you have no further need for training and/or experience. Like one of the popular mags says..."a good diver is always learning." Get out there and dive and have a good time learning as you go.
 
Thal has it right concerning the NAUI Master Diver Course. It's darn good for what it is. If I'm a DM on a boat and a diver (of whom I don't know) shows a NAUI Master Diver card and has logged 150 dives or so, I am at least confident that he can dive a recreational profile. That's what I want from other divers, an indication that they have taken some level of formal education and have dived.
 
If you had the rescue diver cert and had managed to pick up the 5 other specialty cards along the way (because you were interested in the courses), would you bother getting the Master Diver card? Is there any advantage of having it (other than the nifty backpack)?
 
pediatron:
If you had the rescue diver cert and had managed to pick up the 5 other specialty cards along the way (because you were interested in the courses), would you bother getting the Master Diver card? Is there any advantage of having it (other than the nifty backpack)?

Not really. I would not ever go on a trip and show the DM the Master Diver card, unless I want him/her to roll their eyes. They usually check out your log book, anyway.

The backpack isn't even really big enough to hold anything.
 
DivingCRNA:
Not really. I would not ever go on a trip and show the DM the Master Diver card, unless I want him/her to roll their eyes. They usually check out your log book, anyway.

The backpack isn't even really big enough to hold anything.

I think there are many that like the card collection thingy
Personally, it doesn't make much a difference to me.
I have my 5 and have never thought it was worth filing the paperwork.

As for showing a log book to dive, I stopped taking mine on trips. I have never been refused a dive because I didn't have my log book. The "C" is your certification. Thats what it is for. A log book is nothing but a piece of paper that can be made to say whatever you want ti to say.

I have been asked to do a checkout dive and I respect that. AKR in Roatan will do these and it makes good sense. They made me do a few skills and judged my comfort in the water.
 
Sure hope that wouldn't really happen. I lost my ow card, and when I did my advanced course, the shop ordered me only the Master diver card (since I had satisfied all the other requirements for SSI MD). So that's all I got.

DivingCRNA:
Not really. I would not ever go on a trip and show the DM the Master Diver card, unless I want him/her to roll their eyes.
 
the word master means that the person has mastered the art of diving .

I have nearly 2000 dives complete . (next year ) i have dived many of the different typs of diving and am on the search and recovery unit for the irishunder water councill . i hav had many different dives from shallow to deep . flat clam to storm . still to drift . cave , river , lake, altitude , wreck . exploration , cold , night

i havent done ice yet . :11:

do i see myself as a master diver . NO NO NO. :no

the words masster and addvanced leave the impression that the diver knows what they are doing :rofl3: .

not in my experience . these grades give a faulse sence of Brillance .

george Irvine . now theres a master diver
 
i only show my active diver card when i go on trips , otherwise i end up hand holding some new ow diver .
 
Paco II:
Sure hope that wouldn't really happen. I lost my ow card, and when I did my advanced course, the shop ordered me only the Master diver card (since I had satisfied all the other requirements for SSI MD). So that's all I got.

I wouldn't sweat it, I know of no DM that is going to Laugh because you have a Master Scuba Diver card. That only happens on the Scubaboard.
 

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