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Works great ,when DTB1981 had his toyota Hi-ace and i had my town ace in Japan the gear kept moving back and forth between the vans.skynscuba:Your buddy's.
That CNW report has been debunked so many times on CleanMPG, GreenHybrid, and other sites. Hell, even Toyota got sick of the lies and posted their own thoughts.jeraldjcook:I read an article not too long ago that compared the "total fuel efficiency" of a H2 and a Toyota Prius, from obtaining the raw materials to 150,000 miles (or so, I don't remember the exact mileage). The article concluded that over the ENTIRE life of the vehicle the H2 is more efficient. This horrible mpg from the H2 was more than canceled out by the technological costs of the Prius. Because of the added electrical systems, battery (especially the battery), added computers, the overall energy and resources needed for the Prius to reach the 150,000 miles was greater than that of the H2. I'll see if I can find a link to the article.
Edit: By the way, I drive a Civic.
Edit v2.0: http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060719.shtml
and here (different article) http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/
Dear H2 owners,What is clear, however, is that the conclusions appear to be very different from the results of several other rigorous, scientifically-reviewed studies of the lifecycle impact of vehicles (e.g. Argonne National Laboratory, Massachusetts Institute of Technology).There are also basic factual errors in the report, for example CNW claim that the hybrid batteries are not recycled.
- Example 1: These studies conclude that the majority (80-85%) of the total lifetime energy use of a vehicle comes from the driving stage, with the remainder coming from the remaining stages of a vehicle life, whereas the CNW study shows these percentages to be reversed.
- Example 2: Two Toyota models mentioned in the report, the Scion xA and xB sold only in the USA, are engineered with the same processes, built on the same assembly line, transported and shipped together, distributed through the same dealer network, have the same engines and transmissions, are about the same weight (within 50 lbs.), and have very similar fuel consumption ratings (one just over 35 mpg combined, the other just below 35), yet the CNW study shows the lifetime energy use of these vehicles to be very different (53 per cent).
- Example 3: The CNW study states that hybrids require more lifetime energy than even large SUVs. Toyota's internal analysis does conclude that there is more energy required in the materials production stage for a hybrid, but that this is overwhelmingly made up for in the driving stage (the 80-85% stage), causing the hybrid to have a significantly lower lifetime energy use.
Coldiver1:If you have a Jeep Wrangler you can put the windshield down and drive to the divesite with your mask on your face,...or wear sunglasses and put the mask on your forehead.
jonnythan:The H3 puts out ~11.1 tons of emissions per year.
A Civic puts out ~5.5 tons, the same as a Jetta or Corolla.
A Prius puts out about 3.4 tons per year.
If you're going to seriously tell me that all of those numbers are really about the same, then we're going to have some words