What is the deepest you can do an OOA?

[JeffG]

jhbryaniV: Yes, of course, as always. Keep those trim pictures coming. The OP post was about OOA ascents. It turned into this usual collection form the usual suspects. It seemed that the OP had some merit.

Well, if it isn't the peanut gallery. Tell me. Do you store this speech in a text file so that you can just cut-n-paste it?

 

[Bill51]

This thread has certainly made me appreciate how lucky I guess I’ve been with equipment. I can count on one hand the number of equipment failures that could have become incidents and the last one was over 400 dives ago when I forgot to tiewrap the mouthpiece back on my 2nd stage and it fell off giving me a mouth full of seawater. That doesn’t prevent me from mentally assuming I’m going to have something go wrong leaving me OOA, but maybe that I don’t dwell on it helps keep the problem at bay since I focus on having myself and my gear in good shape.

A lot of the discussion reminds me of many new multi-engine pilots I’ve dealt with who get so smug in thinking they have an extra engine they fail to realize they’ve actually doubled their chance of having an engine failure.

 

[mdb]

Well, if it isn't the peanut gallery. Tell me. Do you store this speech in a text file so that you can just cut-n-paste it?

Yep, makes it easy to respond to the same drivel.

 

[gangrel441]

All the other things you do to prepare for a dive are more important but as someone posted, a CESA can be another tool in the tool box, although it is right at the bottom of the box...

No argument here about whether or not it is a tool or where it is located in the box. Some folks in here seem to think that they don't need a tool at the bottom of the box. This is my disagreement.

Every once in a while, a person finds himself in a position where a little used, obscure, risky procedure might also be his best chance for survival. When said procedure doesn't require any equipment whatsoever, a little bit (not much) of training and practice, and requires no reliance on anyone else, why would that tool be disregarded? Nothing to lose, and (under a very very small percentage outcome) everything to gain.

Do what you want, folks. Me? I am working with redundancy, a reliable group of buddies, and a never used tool that I can bring out when all else fails. Happy diving to y'all.

 

[JeffG]

Yep, makes it easy to respond to the same drivel.

Why even put in that much effort?

 

[all4scuba05]

Once again the most intelligent divers on this board use the same old saying," you haven't gone diving enough, that's why you don't agree with us"
Well, let me see, there are a other divers who don't agree with you on the same point and they have plenty of dives when compared to mine. So if being new proves that I'm wrong then, then how do you explain the fact that they're "old timers" and think the same as I? You folks love looking at dive #'s and then use that as "proof" that some of us are wrong. Is that the best you can do to "win" an arguement?
The fact that I'm "new to diving doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of "elite" divers out there with more experience than you and yet they don't agree with you. But they do with me. Does that prove that I'm right? No. It only proves that my number of dives has nothing to do with wether I'm wrong or know what I'm talking about.

 

[cerich]

OK so I've never had to do a CESA for real,and it's hard to imagine myself in that position. Other than teaching or guiding I always team dive.


But here's the thing, I LIKE doing deep CESA's, it just fun....

 

[Soggy]

Being new doesn't make you wrong, but at your own admission, you don't have the experience diving in such a way that reduce the odds of a CESA needing to occur down to near zilch. Your dive philosophy increases your chances of needing to do this procedure.

Maybe we'll meet down at the quarry some day and we can talk about this face to face more civilized.

Everyone has different experiences. My experience is that, because of the way I dive, there isn't a realistic scenario that would lead to a CESA. The 'old timers' here have different philosophies based on their differing experiences. People disagree. It happens.

Once again the most intelligent divers on this board use the same old saying," you haven't gone diving enough, that's why you don't agree with us"
Well, let me see, there are a other divers who don't agree with you on the same point and they have plenty of dives when compared to mine. So if being new proves that I'm wrong then, then how do you explain the fact that they're "old timers" and think the same as I? You folks love looking at dive #'s and then use that as "proof" that some of us are wrong. Is that the best you can do to "win" an arguement?
The fact that I'm "new to diving doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of "elite" divers out there with more experience than you and yet they don't agree with you. But they do with me. Does that prove that I'm right? No. It only proves that my number of dives has nothing to do with wether I'm wrong or know what I'm talking about.

 

[captain]

Maybe we'll meet down at the quarry some day and we can talk about this face to face more civilized.

My experience is that, because of the way I dive, there isn't a realistic scenario that would lead to a CESA. .

Because of the way I drive there isn't a realistic scenario that could lead to an accident. Oh yea!

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

because of the way I dive, there isn't a realistic scenario that would lead to a CESA.

Because of the way I drive there isn't a realistic scenario that could lead to an accident.

These do not say the same thing ... so what's the point?

... Bob (Grateful Diver)