What is DIR and hogatharian?

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Ok here's a stupid newby question. What is DIR and what is hogatharin? I seached on DIR and was told there is a forum but I can't find it. I just want it for background when reading these threads.

Thanks guys, let the slings and arrows fly...

Carl
 
cbrunberg:
Ok here's a stupid newby question. What is DIR and what is hogatharin? I seached on DIR and was told there is a forum but I can't find it. I just want it for background when reading these threads.

Thanks guys, let the slings and arrows fly...

Carl
DIR is an acronym for Doing It Right.

Try a search using those words and I suspect you'll find a few threads. Same with a search on Hogarthian or William Hogarth Main. These have been popular topics for threads for over four years on SB, and around 15 years or more in the field...guarantee you'll come up with all the shizzle. ;)

No slings and arrows.

Welcome to ScubaBoard.

Doc
 
Thanks guys the threads provided were just what I was looking for. This is a great site. I just keep finding more and more questions. I like questions.

Carl
 
cbrunberg:
Ok here's a stupid newby question. What is DIR and what is hogatharin? I seached on DIR and was told there is a forum but I can't find it. I just want it for background when reading these threads.

Thanks guys, let the slings and arrows fly...

Carl

Well......

Hogarthian, to start with that, is widely thought to be a particular configuration of equipment. It includes such things as redundancy, donating the primary in air sharing, the long-hose, backpate/wing, reducing danglies and what not. There are some good discussions about that on the Hogarthian forum.

There are those (including myself) that believe that Hogarthian should and does go further (for example, assumptions about your buddy) because no configuration exists without a context. However the line is usually drawn on the equipment side.

If you talk about the rest of it, the *whole* diving system, including equipment configuration but also including expectations of your buddy, protocols, attitudes, skills, team-play and right down to physical fitness levels and what-not, then you're talking about DIR. In a sense, you can see DIR as a well documented set of best practices. Naturally, some people will aspire to be "pure" about it and other won't, which creates a lot of ..... lively ..... discussion.

The DIR configuration is Hogarthian (or based on it), which is where the confusion comes in.

That's the helicopter view. The details can be found in the appropriate forums.

R..
 
cbrunberg:
Ok here's a stupid newby question. What is DIR and what is hogatharin? I seached on DIR and was told there is a forum but I can't find it. I just want it for background when reading these threads.

Carl

Not such a stupid question. This may seem incredible to American divers and those who use scubaboard but I would roughly estimate that in Europe, the middle east and SE Asia, nine out of ten divers have never heard of DIR or GUE. I gave up asking people I met on dive trips if they had heard about this system. I'd read the book 2 years ago and wanted to hear other peoples views on DIR but even though I use a Halcyon Pioneer -which you'd think would at least attract comment from those familiar -I only met one guy who had something to say.

Before anyone says this is due to PADI saturation, other agencys such as BSAC and CMAS are well known to all. It seems that publidity and promotion of DIR worldwide is underperforming rather.
Phil TK
 
Thanks for the continueing input. The internation perspective is appreciated.

Carl
 
Even in the Puget Sound region, where we have a pretty active group of DIR divers, my husbsand took a first aid course with another shop and found that none of his fellow students had ever heard of DIR or GUE, and the instructor herself had vaguely heard of DIR and never of GUE. It has a much larger internet presence than it has in reality, I think.
 

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