Whale and child

[Mr.X]

You've probably seen it by now. Some of the most reserved folks that I know are incensed by these photos.

BTW - Canon which advertises that it is Eco-friendly has been "mum" about advocating an end to the slaughter.

If you want to shoot a whale - use a CANON | Greenpeace USA

Mother and calf whale killed - first photo of the slaughter | NEWS.com.au


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[Kim]

FWIW - the Japanese are denying that it was a mother and calf. They're maintaining it was simply a larger and smaller whale. They say they don't take lactating females.

I don't know.

The Australians shot the footage to use as evidence in a court case, so I suppose we'll see what a Court thinks sometime.

 

[Mr.X]

FWIW - the Japanese are denying that it was a mother and calf. They're maintaining it was simply a larger and smaller whale. They say they don't take lactating females.

I don't know.

The Australians shot the footage to use as evidence in a court case, so I suppose we'll see what a Court thinks sometime.

The argument that it's not a whale and child is via iàj“ú–{Œ~—ÞŒ¤‹†Š. IRC is owned by the whaling fleet.

As you say, it'll be in court - mostly a public one.

On a side note, Canon should have the cahones to really support environmentalism. I have a Canon video camera...not feeling good about it right now based on the belief their advertising campaign meant what it said.


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[wardric]

Is this species of whale endangered? if it is, it's a shame and should be punished.

If not, we legally hunt moose calves and young deers, what's the difference?

 

[sea nmf]

Is this species of whale endangered? if it is, it's a shame and should be punished.

If not, we legally hunt moose calves and young deers, what's the difference?

This is a hot topic and I try to keep a level head.

Do we legally hunt moose calves and young deer because they are not endangered?
Or are we legally able to hunt them because there is an abundance and it helps to thin the herd? (I don't know the answer - just asking)

It would seem to me that to be able to hunt something just because it is not endangered is a little short-sighted. But, I'll admit ignorance in the whole hunting arena.

 

[wardric]

This is a hot topic and I try to keep a level head.

Do we legally hunt moose calves and young deer because they are not endangered?
Or are we legally able to hunt them because there is an abundance and it helps to thin the herd? (I don't know the answer - just asking)

It would seem to me that to be able to hunt something just because it is not endangered is a little short-sighted. But, I'll admit ignorance in the whole hunting arena.

I'd say the second one.

we are legally able to hunt them because there is an abundance and it helps to thin the herd and keep them from dying of hunger and diseases. Also because they do an awsome good meal

You are right, killing only because they are not endangered would be stupid, there must be a good reason other than that. That is why I dont hunt what I wont eat and I use everything possible from my prey. (meat, fur, etc.). I thank mother nature every time I kill an animal for the hormone free meat it provides me.

That is why I personnaly would not hunt a whale. But if some people do not put a specy in danger and dont spoil anything of their catch, I say go for it.

It's the circle of life.

 

[Mr.X]

I'd say the second one.

we are legally able to hunt them because there is an abundance and it helps to thin the herd and keep them from dying of hunger and diseases. Also because they do an awsome good meal

You are right, killing only because they are not endangered would be stupid, there must be a good reason other than that. That is why I dont hunt what I wont eat and I use everything possible from my prey. (meat, fur, etc.). I thank mother nature every time I kill an animal for the hormone free meat it provides me.

That is why I personnaly would not hunt a whale. But if some people do not put a specy in danger and dont spoil anything of their catch, I say go for it.

It's the circle of life.

As a circle of life it makes sense. With the whales there is not a market for them in Japan due to heavy metals and it has lost appeal over the decades. The meat sits in freezers and sometimes is put into school lunches. Makes little sense that way.

I don't know much about moose. If you bag a mom moose...what happens to something like a yearling calf? Is it able to fend for itself? Just wondering. I can imagine a young whale not being able to sustain itself, leaving it open to predators, or starvation?

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[wardric]

As a circle of life it makes sense. With the whales there is not a market for them in Japan due to heavy metals and it has lost appeal over the decades. The meat sits in freezers and sometimes is put into school lunches. Makes little sense that way.

I don't know much about moose. If you bag a mom moose...what happens to something like a yearling calf? Is it able to fend for itself? Just wondering. I can imagine a young whale not being able to sustain itself, leaving it open to predators, or starvation?

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If whale meat is wasted, then I dont see any point in killing them

Yearling mooses are old enough to survive, but I wouldn't shoot a female if she has calves with her. Ideally, you shoot a buck, if not, better a calf (which are enormous btw) than a female since the female has the potential to give birth next year.

The poaching of elephants for only their tusks is far more concerning for me than whales right now.

Other stupid thing around my place is poaching bears and keeping only the gall bladders which sells for a lot in the asian market. the rest is left to rot.

If the whale meat is used and not wasted, I say fine. If it'S wasted I think it's a shame

 

[Mr.X]

If whale meat is wasted, then I dont see any point in killing them

Yearling mooses are old enough to survive, but I wouldn't shoot a female if she has calves with her. Ideally, you shoot a buck, if not, better a calf (which are enormous btw) than a female since the female has the potential to give birth next year.

The poaching of elephants for only their tusks is far more concerning for me than whales right now.

Other stupid thing around my place is poaching bears and keeping only the gall bladders which sells for a lot in the asian market. the rest is left to rot.

If the whale meat is used and not wasted, I say fine. If it'S wasted I think it's a shame

Cheers. I just wondered how terrestrial hunters select game. That being said, the Asian market for exotic critters is really nuts. The new found wealth in China has surged demands for endangered exotics. Pangolins, pikas, etc. are for sale to the highest bidder. Not nice to see, and certainly these critters are equally as worthy as the whales. At least Viagra/Levita have reduced the critter-supported male enhancement market.



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[pir8]

If whale meat is wasted, then I dont see any point in killing them

Yearling mooses are old enough to survive, but I wouldn't shoot a female if she has calves with her. Ideally, you shoot a buck, if not, better a calf (which are enormous btw) than a female since the female has the potential to give birth next year.

The poaching of elephants for only their tusks is far more concerning for me than whales right now.

Other stupid thing around my place is poaching bears and keeping only the gall bladders which sells for a lot in the asian market. the rest is left to rot.

If the whale meat is used and not wasted, I say fine. If it'S wasted I think it's a shame

If the meat is wasted I would call it criminal not just a shame.