Weight Issues & DIR

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It seems like you're approaching this in the right way by asking questions and tweaking your gear to have better trim and buoyancy with second order thinking of how this can impact you in the long run. You see way too many people with terrible fundamentals and finning skills while being overweighted to oblivion from poor instructor practices.

DIR is a great framework for gear configuration which can help streamline your setup and eliminate failure points. I can't speak to the quality of the brand of your BCD, but it does seem like a more or less standard BPW system with "deluxe" features (buckles, padding, etc. all things that manufactures try to upsell to make you think you need them). My first BPW was very similar (thanks, XDeep) with all the buckles and padding. Quickly realized I hated all of it and much preferred just a single piece of webbing and no padding at all. I've seen buckles get broken with tanks dropping on them or small pieces of plastic getting broken rendering the buckle useless. I also find padding to be more limiting than just the webbing by itself. Maybe that's just me.

Regardless of all that, don't be afraid to experiment with your gear and try new things out. It may very well help with your weighting issues. But it is worth looking into the why behind the DIR configuration vs. giving into peer pressure. There are a ton of resources out there including the "manual" of DIR diving: Doing It Right: The Fundamentals of Better Diving. The book discusses weighting and how to have a "balanced rig" which is an important concept to understand as you progress into diving.
 
Hii yall, so Im a fairly new diver with around 22 dives past my AOW and around 40+ dives in total.

For context, I have a bares 5mm wetsuit and Im around 84Kg. I recently have gotten my own Infinity BCD and there are some trim issues. I have to use 3 weights to be in perfect weighting with 2 up at the camband weightpocket and one on a weightbelt behind my back, just above my butt. This then gets me in trim.

I was told this is not ideal as I should integrate the weights into pockets without a weightbelt needed to go over the BCD harness. My idea was that I could drop the belt and sink in emergencies as taught in OW. How may I do this especially with my weird requirement for weight placement?

Secondly, Infinity BCDs are not DIR. I have been hearing alot of this and since the harness of infinity isnt DIR, Im just wondering does it really matter?

I look forward to hearing from yall and Thank you all for any input!

There are no issues with the Infinity system from my perspective for DIR single tank diving or simple doubles configuration. There are issues that you start to run into with it when adding stages, multiple batteries on the right sides, as there is no good way to run the right side weight pocket with the canisters over there. With a bunch of stages the left side pocket gets sorta floppy because the d-ring isn't right on the harness belt.

There are no recommendations against a weightbelt.
Even if you want to follow GUE (one of the agencies that have close connection to DIR).

I wear a weightbelt under my harness but I know I can swim up my configuration in the event of a wing failure (this should be your goal).

In fact, I'd say, if you look at _most_ of the images of GUE divers in drysuits on the GUE website that are diving in salt water they're almost all in weight belts. Switching to a weight belt instead of trying to shove everything on the rig helped my trim immensely compared to running massive v-weights.

Hi mate, so to clarify im wearing the weight belt on top of the harness waistbelt and crotch strap. I figured its safer this way if i needa ditch it.

I think my second question is in the long run does not having a DIR BCD matter?

The risk of losing a weight belt is greater than the risk of it being hard to ditch imo.

I wear mine underneath. I find it easier and more comfortable. Thirty years and I have never dropped weight (even when my inflator hose popped off!) but I know how to if needed.

Second issue: Why is the Infinity not DIR? I prefer a simple continious harness rig but adjustable harnesses are not terribly bad in my opinion. I don't think you need to be 100 percent DIR unless you are diving with an agency or a team that mandates it. Simple, reliable gear is best IMO so I share DIR philosophy but I do not get fixated on specific gear choices.

The infinity / halcyon cinch is still a continuous piece of webbing. I ended up ditching it eventually because of the amount of extra stuff I was carrying (2 batteries, argon cylinder, a stage etc) that it started to become more of a hinderance than a help.
 
It would be simple enough to replace all that junk with a one piece harness and crotch strap. You could even cut out the stainless D-rings and use them for something else.
I may after I spend more time with this BCD, currently its working to my expectations. Just got lots of friends psychoing me that DIR is the way to go. Im low on funds and rather not change anything just yet lol
 
Brother, if you feel good and comfortable with the gear you have now, keep it just the way it is. Things to keep an eye out for, and open mind, is how effortless you are getting and maintaining trim. How is your buoyancy?

If you chose to make changes to your setup, take it one step at a time and try it out and readjust until its working fine (or not) - BEFORE doing something else.

Thank the fine folks who are peer pressuring you to make changes and tell them that if they care to donate some funds or gear to your cause, they are welcome to it! :) But I would still take it one step at a time :outtahere:
Thanks bro haha. Ill ask them for community chest funds

Buoyancy was bad at the start since I just got new gear as mentioned in my post. But recently went to Bali and Malapascua and sorted it out. Trim is like flat now at least ya know? So thats good enough for me.
 
It seems like you're approaching this in the right way by asking questions and tweaking your gear to have better trim and buoyancy with second order thinking of how this can impact you in the long run. You see way too many people with terrible fundamentals and finning skills while being overweighted to oblivion from poor instructor practices.

DIR is a great framework for gear configuration which can help streamline your setup and eliminate failure points. I can't speak to the quality of the brand of your BCD, but it does seem like a more or less standard BPW system with "deluxe" features (buckles, padding, etc. all things that manufactures try to upsell to make you think you need them). My first BPW was very similar (thanks, XDeep) with all the buckles and padding. Quickly realized I hated all of it and much preferred just a single piece of webbing and no padding at all. I've seen buckles get broken with tanks dropping on them or small pieces of plastic getting broken rendering the buckle useless. I also find padding to be more limiting than just the webbing by itself. Maybe that's just me.

Regardless of all that, don't be afraid to experiment with your gear and try new things out. It may very well help with your weighting issues. But it is worth looking into the why behind the DIR configuration vs. giving into peer pressure. There are a ton of resources out there including the "manual" of DIR diving: Doing It Right: The Fundamentals of Better Diving. The book discusses weighting and how to have a "balanced rig" which is an important concept to understand as you progress into diving.
Yes sir, trim has been tough with new gear. Ive managed to make myself in trim so far.

Currently I do like my BCD since its easy for me to learn and use. Ive just been hearing much buzz and peer pressure about DIR which Im getting overwhelmed. Im just wondering if I can stick with my setup if its not life threatening
 
I may after I spend more time with this BCD, currently its working to my expectations. Just got lots of friends psychoing me that DIR is the way to go. Im low on funds and rather not change anything just yet lol
If they are spouting DIR but can't explain the philosophy behind it, they are "wannabes."

Your BC will work fine until you can get something else.

Is Gideon Liew still active in Singapore? If so, he would be a good resource for you.
 
If they are spouting DIR but can't explain the philosophy behind it, they are "wannabes."

Your BC will work fine until you can get something else.

Is Gideon Lew still avtive is Singapore? If so, he would be a good resource for you.
Alright lol, as long as the BC i have isnt life threatening for recreational diving, i wont change it in the next year at least.

Hmm I dont think so... I havent heard of him much.
 
Alright lol, as long as the BC i have isnt life threatening for recreational diving, i wont change it in the next year at least.

Hmm I dont think so... I havent heard of him much.

If your buddies haven't heard of him, they are DEFINITELY wannabes lol
 

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