Two Slovenian Divers die diving rebreathers

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From Google Translation above: (yes it is bad translation but good enough)

Diver died because of problems with equipment?
Zaradi nesreče slovenskih potapljačev pri Trstu naj bi preiskovalci že podali tri ovadbe - Izkušeni potapljač Damir Podnar izpostavlja predvsem krivdo organizatorja, ki ni dovolj dobro poskrbel za varnost potapljačev After the accident Slovenian divers near Trieste, the investigators have made three complaints - Experienced diver Damir Podnar highlights mainly the fault of the organizer, which is not good enough care for the safety of divers

Trieste - Yesterday evening at the hospital Cattinara died in Trieste and other Slovenian diver was killed a few days ago while diving in the Italian marine reserve of Miramare. Enaintridesetletnega Žigo Dobrajca so od nedeljske nesreče pri življenju ohranjali aparati, ker pa njegovi možgani niso kazali nobenih aktivnosti, so zdravniki aparature odklopili in biologa piranske Morske biološke postaje razglasili za mrtvega. Enaintridesetletnega Žiga Dobrajca, since the Sunday accident in the life preserving equipment, but because his brain did not show any activity, doctors disconnected the apparatus and biologist Piran Marine Biology Station declared dead.

Among the accused persons should also instructor

Kot smo že poročali, se je slovenski dvojec skupaj z drugimi potapljači minuli konec tedna udeležil predstavitvenega tečaja za izkušene potapljače, na katerem naj bi preizkusili novo dihalno napravo, ki ji pravijo rebreather. As already reported, the Slovenian duo, together with other divers over the weekend attended the demonstration course for experienced divers, which would try the new breathing device, called rebreathers. Slednja deluje v tako imenovanem zaprtem dihalnem krogu, kar pomeni, da zrak, ki ga izdiha potapljač, kroži znotraj aparata in se za vsak dih obnavlja, tako da ga lahko potapljač ponovno vdihne. The latter operates in the so-called self-contained breathing cycle, which means that the air we breath diver, circulates within the apparatus, and for each breath is renewed, so that you can re-diver inhales. Pri tem se ogljikov dioksid absorbira, dodaja pa se kisik, ki nadomesti porabljenega. In doing so, carbon dioxide is absorbed, but adds oxygen to replace consumed. Tako plinska mešanica v rebreatherju vseskozi ostaja primerna za dihanje. Thus, the gas mixture rebreatherju always remains suitable for breathing.

Med potopom z rebreatherjem sta Žiga Dobrajc in njegov 41-letni kolega Samo Alajbegović izgubila zavest. During the dive, with rebreatherjem Dobrajc Sigmund and his 41-year-old colleague just Alajbegović lost consciousness. Drugi potapljači so ju začeli iskati in na vodni gladini kmalu opazili negibno Dobrajčevo telo. Other divers have they started looking at the water surface and soon noticed Dobrajčevo motionless body. Piranskega biologa so potegnili na kopno in ga približno štirideset minut oživljali, nakar so ga v kritičnem stanju prepeljali v bolnišnico, medtem ko so Alajbegovićevo truplo našli šele čez nekaj ur približno sedem metrov pod morsko gladino. Piran biologist was lifted ashore and the enlivened by about forty minutes, after that it was transported in critical condition in hospital, while the body was found Alajbegovićevo take several hours to about seven feet below sea level.

Čeprav vzrok za tragedijo še vedno ni znan, je včeraj na dan prišla neuradna informacija, da so italijanski preiskovalci v tem primeru že podali tri ovadbe, vendar uradno tega ni potrdil nihče. Although the cause of the tragedy is still not known, arrived yesterday on the day of unofficial information that the Italian investigators in this case has already raised three complaints, but it is not officially endorsed anyone. Med ovadenimi naj bi bila tudi proizvajalec opreme, ki sta jo uporabljala nesrečna slovenska potapljača, in eden od inštruktorjev, ali to drži, pa bo zagotovo znano v prihodnjih dneh. Among the accused persons should be also a manufacturer of equipment that are used by the miserable Slovenian diver, and one of the instructors, or so, there will surely be known in coming days. Govorice o ovadbah je slišal tudi Vladimir Ban , načelnik Podvodne reševalne službe, ki pravi, da je bilo očitno vendarle nekaj narobe z rebreatherji, saj drugače ne bi ovadili proizvajalca. Rumors of the complaint is also heard Vladimir Ban, Chief of Underwater Rescue Service, which says that it was evident, however, something wrong with rebreatherji, it would not otherwise had been reported by the manufacturer.
Na trgu veliko rebreatherjev slabše kakovosti In the market much lower quality rebreatherjev

Potapljač Damir Podnar , drugače tudi sodni izvedenec, pa vidi več možnosti, ki bi lahko pripeljale do tragične nesreče. Diver Damir Podnar, otherwise the court expert, sees a number of options that could lead to a tragic accident. Če je šlo res za napako pri opremi, potem je po njegovem kriva okvara rebreatherja ali pa so potapljači dobili v roke že izrabljen model. If this was indeed an error in the equipment, then he is guilty or failure rebreatherja divers are getting into the hands of already exploited model. "Lahko je šlo tudi za človeško napako, vsekakor pa je pri vsem skupaj mogoče govoriti o krivdi organizatorja, ki je zatajil. Če namreč organiziraš predstavitveni potop nove opreme, potem moraš imeti vse pod nadzorom, tudi v smislu, da bi moral biti ob vsakem tečajniku še inštruktor, česar se tu niso držali," pravi Podnar in dodaja, da gre vendarle za eno osnovnih pravil potapljanja, zato se mu zdi takšna napaka nerazumljiva. "It can not also be a human error, however, it is possible for everyone to talk about the guilt of the organizer, who has denied. For if you organize a demonstration flood of new equipment, then you have to have everything under control even in the sense that it should be at all the student is an instructor, which is not kept here, "says Podnar, adding that it is nevertheless one of the basic rules of diving, so it seems baffled by this error message.

Poudarja tudi, da pri potapljaški zvezi odsvetujejo določene modele rebreatherjev, ker so slabše kakovosti. It also points out that when diving on rebreatherjev discourage certain models because they are of inferior quality. "Na tržišču je veliko takšnih problematičnih rebreatherjev, zato je treba biti pri nakupu pazljiv, saj morajo imeti preverjeni oziroma testirani modeli tudi določen certifikat," pojasnjuje Podnar in dodaja, da se vse prevečkrat dogaja, da si potapljači rebreatherje tako imenovanega zaprtega kroga naredijo kar sami. "The market has many such problematic rebreatherjev, it is necessary to be careful when buying, as they must be verified and tested models also provided a certificate," says Podnar and adds that all too often happens that the divers rebreatherje so-called closed-loop do their themselves. Verjetno je takšna odločitev povezana tudi s ceno, saj gre za precej drag kos opreme, ki stane nekje od 5000 do 7000 evrov. Probably such a decision is also linked to the price because this is a fairly expensive piece of equipment, which costs anywhere from 5000 to 7000 euros. Podnar sicer ve, rebreatherje katerega proizvajalca sta uporabljala nesrečna slovenska potapljača, nima pa še podatka, za kateri model je šlo, zato ne more tvegati ocene, ali je za smrt potapljačev resnično kriva oprema. Podnar otherwise known rebreatherje producer of which used the miserable Slovenian diver, but no further information which the model is gone, can not take the risk assessment of whether the death of divers really blame equipment.
 
Potaplja?a umrla zaradi te?av z opremo? | Dnevnik

Victims are Žiga Dobrajc (31) and Samo Alajbegović (41). (identified in the article)

English translation with Google:

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Didn't work for me.

Here is what another translation gave:

After the accident Slovenian divers near Trieste, the investigators have made three complaints - Experienced diver Damir Podnar highlights mainly the fault of the organizer, which is not good enough care of the safety divers

Among the accused persons should also instructor
As we previously reported, the Slovenian duo, together with other divers over the weekend attended a demonstration course for experienced divers, which would try the new breathing device, called rebreathers. The latter operates in the so-called self-contained breathing cycle, which means that the air we breath diver, circulates within the apparatus, and for each breath is renewed, so that you can re-diver inhales. In doing so, carbon dioxide is absorbed, but adds oxygen to replace consumed. Thus, the gas mixture rebreather always remains suitable for breathing. During the dive, with rebreather Dobrajc Sigmund and his 41-year-old colleague just Alajbegović lost consciousness. Other divers have they started looking at the water surface and soon noticed Dobrajčevo motionless body. Piran biologist was lifted ashore and the enlivened by about forty minutes, after that it was transported in critical condition in hospital, while the body was found Alajbegović evo take several hours to about seven feet below sea level. Although the cause of the tragedy is still not known, arrived yesterday on the day of unofficial information that the Italian investigators in this case has already raised three complaints, but it is not officially endorsed anyone. Among the accused persons should be also a manufacturer of equipment that are used by the miserable Slovenian diver, and one of the instructors, or so, there will surely be known in coming days. Rumors of the complaint is also heard Vladimir Ban, Chief of Underwater Rescue Service, which says that it was evident, however, something wrong with rebreather, it would not otherwise had been reported by the manufacturer.

In the market much lower quality rebreather

diver Damir Podnar, otherwise the court expert, sees a number of options that could lead to a tragic accident. If this was indeed an error in the equipment, then he is guilty or failure rebreather divers are getting into the hands of already exploited model. "It can not also be a human error, however, it is possible for everyone to talk about the guilt of the organizer, who has denied. For if you organize a demonstration flood of new equipment, then you have to have everything under control even in the sense that it should be at all the student is an instructor, which is not kept here, "says Podnar, adding that it is nevertheless one of the basic rules of diving, so it seems baffled by this error message. It also points out that when diving on rebreather discourage certain models because they are of inferior quality. "The market has many such problematic rebreather, it is necessary to be careful when buying, as they must be verified and tested models also provided a certificate," says Podnar and adds that all too often happens that the divers rebreather so-called closed-loop do their themselves. Probably such a decision is also linked to the price because this is a fairly expensive piece of equipment, which costs anywhere from 5000 to 7000 euros. Podnar otherwise known rebreather producer of which used the miserable Slovenian diver, but no further information which the model is gone, can not take the risk assessment of whether the death of divers really blame equipment.
 
Sorry part of copy&paste does not properly translate. I will try and fix it later today.
 
Thanks Jax! Sorry I had bad luck with link and translation.
 
Extremely sad. Do we know which rebreathers they where using?
 
They were using bad of rebreathers quality.

Well thats an exact quote if I ever saw one!!
 
They were using bad of rebreathers quality.

I take it you didn't read the original article just the automatic (poor) google translation?

I can tell you that grammar in the original article is correct.

However automatic translation did get the overall picture across.
 

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