TSA and pony cylinder?

[fdog]

If you're doing it the right way, and traveling with the valve out: make sure you carry the valve nearby.

The TSA may want you to re-install the valve, so you can put a gauge on it, and thus prove it is empty.

Really.



All the best, James

 

[fisheater]

If you're doing it the right way, and traveling with the valve out: make sure you carry the valve nearby.

The TSA may want you to re-install the valve, so you can put a gauge on it, and thus prove it is empty.

Really.



All the best, James

PLEASE say that you're joking. Somehow, I suspect not.

Of course, putting a gauge on it would prove that it's not empty, but pressured to one atmosphere. But I would recommend pointing that out to the TSA genius.


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[beaverdivers]

That link in regards to scuba tanks is wrong. You want this link:

Compressed Gas Cylinders | Transportation Security Administration

Nice update! Thanks.

We recommend having a copy of this info attached to your cylinder.

We have travelled all over world w/ponies, no problem.

 

[Nemrod]

I generally carry a flip blade knife clipped in my pocket, one of those almost switchblade type. It is a razor sharp weapon. Since I carry it all the time and quickly tossed my jeans on I completely did not notice it. Went through security and got on the airplane, flew to my next stop and while waiting at the gate wanted to trim hang nail and reached for my knife--then---OH S-H------- and etc. After freaking out about it and trying to figure out what to do decided to throw it away. Then I thought somebody might get it out of the trash. Then I thought I will just snap the blade. Well, that only broke the trim on the bathroom stall door in the terminal restroom. So I figured the worst could happen is that I would wind up in Gitmo and just put it back in my pocket, deep in my pocket, not clipped and went onward. This was post 911.

So, just because you got away with traveling with the valve on does not mean it is legal.

N

 

[flots am]

The xray machines are only as good as the operator. I once by accident left a couple of rounds of ammo in a carry on with a tool set, it went right though TSA no problem. I just about peed my pants when I unpacked in the hotel room and realized how much trouble I could have been in.

I was questioned at great length as to why they couldn't see though my (2) 1Lb trim weights.

"We can't see though these"

"I know, they're lead"

"Yeah, but we can't see though them"

"They're small bags full of lead shot. There's nothing to see on the other side and x-rays can't pass though lead (not completely true, but I didn't want to make things worse)"

"Why can't we see though them?"

At this point, the manager came over and told the guy feeling up my trim weights to forget it.

It's like being on a Saturday Night Live skit.

If I cared enough, I would have sent the TSA a note to tell them they hired a moron, and if they were expecting any sot of security they might want to replace him, but there seemed to be significant risk and not a big up-side for me.

I can't imagine what kind of training leaves an agent confused as to why he can't see though lead.

flots.

 

[Nemrod]

I can't imagine what kind of training leaves an agent confused as to why he can't see though lead.

flots.

The same kind of training that your healthcare will have very soon.

N

 

[Katch]

All legal issues aside...

Is there an actual danger to carrying a pony (still under pressure) on a flight - with carry on baggage? I'd like to bring my 19cf pony along for a weekend diving in Florida (TSA will not be an issue). I've seen people fly on oxygen, so I assume there won't be a problem with the pressure changes.


Steve

 

[jar546]

Nice update! Thanks.

We recommend having a copy of this info attached to your cylinder.

We have travelled all over world w/ponies, no problem.

Great idea to carry the regulations with you


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[DA Aquamaster]

All legal issues aside...

Is there an actual danger to carrying a pony (still under pressure) on a flight - with carry on baggage? I'd like to bring my 19cf pony along for a weekend diving in Florida (TSA will not be an issue). I've seen people fly on oxygen, so I assume there won't be a problem with the pressure changes.


Steve

There's no real danger from pressure, but then again short of a laboratory gas analysis there's no way to now what's in it. Air? Nerve gas? Propane? A couple pounds of C4? Or (oh the humanity...) compressed fart gas!

---------- Post added December 6th, 2012 at 08:12 AM ----------

I was questioned at great length as to why they couldn't see though my (2) 1Lb trim weights.

"We can't see though these"

"I know, they're lead"

"Yeah, but we can't see though them"

"They're small bags full of lead shot. There's nothing to see on the other side and x-rays can't pass though lead (not completely true, but I didn't want to make things worse)"

"Why can't we see though them?"

At this point, the manager came over and told the guy feeling up my trim weights to forget it.

It's like being on a Saturday Night Live skit.

If I cared enough, I would have sent the TSA a note to tell them they hired a moron, and if they were expecting any sot of security they might want to replace him, but there seemed to be significant risk and not a big up-side for me.

I can't imagine what kind of training leaves an agent confused as to why he can't see though lead.

flots.

It's not so much a training issue as it is low pay and low selection standards resulting in staff who are not usually the sharpest or the brightest crayons in the box.

Training does come in I think as a secondary effect of higher than average turn over.

If you're doing it the right way, and traveling with the valve out: make sure you carry the valve nearby.

The TSA may want you to re-install the valve, so you can put a gauge on it, and thus prove it is empty.

Really.

I submit this as evidence of the above argument about low minimums for intellectual standards.