To bungie it or not to bungie it, that is the question!!

[phylo]

So here is my dilema, I am just starting to get into Tech diving and I have a Halcyon bp/w system. I have the Explorer wing and dial PST HP 100's. I have dove this rig in the pool only so far. THe one thing I found kind of anoying is that because of the wings horseshoe shape it is easy to get more air on one side of the wing than the other causing me to list to one side or the other.. Its not that anoying, but I Have been looking at the OMS wings and I like the Idea of having the the bungies on the wind so that I can dump air in any postion as well as having the bands keep the wind equally inflated!

I guess my question is, what do you use and why?

 

[JWU42]

So here is my dilema, I am just starting to get into Tech diving and I have a Halcyon bp/w system. I have the Explorer wing and dial PST HP 100's. I have dove this rig in the pool only so far. THe one thing I found kind of anoying is that because of the wings horseshoe shape it is easy to get more air on one side of the wing than the other causing me to list to one side or the other.. Its not that anoying, but I Have been looking at the OMS wings and I like the Idea of having the the bungies on the wind so that I can dump air in any postion as well as having the bands keep the wind equally inflated!

I guess my question is, what do you use and why?

Phylo,

I don't dive doubles but after just finishing a DIR-Fundamentals class this weekend and watching someone newer with doubles (but a solid diver with 400+ dives) I can make a few comments. The Halcyon wing's horseshoe is designed to allow you to adjust your trim by rolling your shoulders/hips to perfect trim. Bungied wings are (nope - I won't go there) perhaps not a good idea and just spending more time in the pool with a instructors or very proficient buddy will allow you to work on things and get it right.

 

[JeffG]

So here is my dilema, I am just starting to get into Tech diving and I have a Halcyon bp/w system. I have the Explorer wing and dial PST HP 100's. I have dove this rig in the pool only so far. THe one thing I found kind of anoying is that because of the wings horseshoe shape it is easy to get more air on one side of the wing than the other causing me to list to one side or the other.. Its not that anoying, but I Have been looking at the OMS wings and I like the Idea of having the the bungies on the wind so that I can dump air in any postion as well as having the bands keep the wind equally inflated!

I guess my question is, what do you use and why?

Its not an answer to your question, but you are solving the wrong problem. Bad trim is causing your problem. Fix that and all the other problems go away.

 

[sharpenu]

There were times where I swim on one side to look at something, and then when it was time to go back to the prone position, I had to maneuver air around to trim out again. My new BP/W has a doughnut shaped (Oxycheq Signature 27#) wing. Trim is less of an issue now. I don't know if a doughnut shape is made for doubles, though.

 

[JWU42]

sharpenu:

That is a single tank wing - donut shape doesn't work for doubles and most double wings start at 40# of lift (or high 30's).

 

[Spectre]

There were times where I swim on one side to look at something

... a habit that is broken rather quickly after a few dives in doubles

To answer the original poster's question.... just give it a couple more dives. The tendancy to roll to the side is very common when transitioning from singles to doubles. On singles it's a tad more forgiving then it is on doubles.

 

[phylo]

... a habit that is broken rather quickly after a few dives in doubles

To answer the original poster's question.... just give it a couple more dives. The tendancy to roll to the side is very common when transitioning from singles to doubles. On singles it's a tad more forgiving then it is on doubles.

Its actually not an issue with trim or a tendancy to roll, its more an issue of when I purposefully roll to one side and then want to go back to a normal position, its a pain to have to get the wings to have the same amount of air on each side. Hence the bungie is appealing as it doesent matter what position you are in, the wings will equalize on there own. I also like the idea of being able to dump air in any position as well.

I do appreciate all the comments and look forward to hearing more.

Phil

 

[Spectre]

Its actually not an issue with trim or a tendancy to roll, its more an issue of when I purposefully roll to one side and then want to go back to a normal position

What I meant by "tendancy" was intentional tendancy. Enough dives in doubles and you'll find yourself rotating more, and rolling less.

Hence the bungie is appealing as it doesent matter what position you are in, the wings will equalize on there own. I also like the idea of being able to dump air in any position as well.

However you then have the downside if you have an uneven distribution of weight. The non-bungeed wings will be able to even out the load by having more air on the side with more weight.

It becomes second nature to "over-roll" to shift the gas back to even; as well as give it another little toss if it's off.