TI swimming, which to go for?

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Diver_City Boys

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If you already know how to swim and want to improve a bit, the book listed on Amazon gives some good pointers but isn't a keeper. Try borrowing it from someone or checking it out from a library. I'm too lazy or impatient to do the exercises since I'm not interested in competitive swimming.

You're better off a) swimming until you're comfortable in the water, b) spending the money on two or three adult swimming lessons with a good instructor (tell them about the swim test you're preparing for), then c) practicing, practicing, practicing...to build muscle memory. I also try to just focus on one or two techniques at a time.

What I recall is

- try to lengthen you body (swim tall) and keep it horizontal. Think of yourself as gliding smoothly through the water like a ship's hull, fish, dophin, or whatever works for you.

- keep the entire length of your body aligned (head included) as you swim, don't just move your head or arms - this means you will be rocking a bit as you swim in freestyle/crawl, and your shoulder and maybe hip will break the surface when you take a breath.

- when you flutter kick, try not to break the surface of the water often, if at all

- when stroking, cup your hands to maximize water resistence (power), and when positioning for the next stroke try to minimize water resistence so you don't slow your smooth glide through the water more than is necessary. I believe the book goes into the specific pattern of the stroke for freestyle, but any competant swim instructor should be able to go over it with you. In freestyle, you do not have to windmill stroke above the water...it wastes energy...just kind of ooze your arm forward just above the surface and then slip your hand back in the water fingertips first (hand cupped to power the stroke, of course). In breaststroke, when repositioning to stroke again, bring your hands together palm to palm right below your chest quickly but smoothly, then slide them forward. You just rotate at the wrist (thumbs inward) to stroke again when your arms are straight.

- Your head does not have to go all the way underwater in breaststroke. In fact, it should be horizontal (looking at the pool floor) between breaths so that your body will be horizontal. (Think this was from my swim instructor rather than the book).
 
You'll find more info about TI in the Non-Diving and Strength and Conditioning sections.
 
Diver_City Boys:
So far i have found these:
http://www.totalimmersion.net/products.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068481885X/102-0631366-8038500?v=glance&n=283155

Is first link belong to Terry Laughlin too? seems to have newer book and DVD products?
Anyone expert here to pick for me the few best choices? realy confused with more choices. i'm trying to prepare myself better for Padi confined swiming skills

The book at Amazon is 10 years old. Terry has much more up-to-date training materials, including his DVDs. I can highly recommend the DVD over any book, if you were to only get one, as the video is much more helpful than still photos. That said, the books go into greater detail about the concepts than the DVD- get both if the cost is not a problem for you.

Cameron
 
I was a swimming instructor for 14 years. I taught 11,000 kids and adults to swim. If you are not confident in your ability, I strongly suggest getting lessons with an instructor. I believe, unless the instructor is lousy, that you can make more progress in five hours with the feedback of someone watching you that you can in scores of hours trying to imitate a video. The video can't stop you every 15 yards and suggest improvements. Getting an instructor is easy. Ask your local high school coach or YMCA aquatics director to suggest a high school kid who would help you for one hour a day for a few days. Offer the kid ten bucks an hour if he/she is at the pool anyway (for work or practice). You can do this during lap swim or free swim session sceduled at the pool. IMPORTANT, the kid must have competitive swimming success. I don't mean it has to be a state champion. What you want is a swim team member, preferably one of those many who have been swimming since pre-teen years. When you ask for a reccomendation, ask for someone who will be a good teacher. Just because someone has a Water Safety Instructor (WSI) card from the Red Cross does not mean they are a good instructor. I see these people every day teaching children's classes that can't even swim well. That's fine for teaching 6 year olds to blow bubbles, but you need more than that. It is better that you have a good swimmer (someone who swims 100 meters freestyle in the :50's or faster) who can communicate well than someone with certification (of course some of these people will be certified, just don't worry if he/she is not). No, it is not important that the person swim fast to help you, but people who swim fast and score points in competition for their high school teams for a couple of years have had A TON of quality coaching that they can pass on to you. They understand stroke mechanics. And they will be thrilled you asked for their expertise. So, call your local coach. I tell people that I can teach them to swim in five hours of actively engaged instruction. It will not take long, no matter who you are (many people think they can't do it and are surprised). The important thing is to practice what you learn after the lessons are over by swimming regularly. Even 20-30 minutes three times a week at your health club will help you develop muscle memory. Then go back for one more lesson as a tune-up after a few weeks, months. And if you are like many people (maybe you're not?) you think it will look funny for an adult ot take lessons. Not true. Everyone admires people who are anxious to learn, even if they are old, fat, in a wheelchair, a frightened beginner... Don't let yourself feel awkward. Good Luck.
 
I got the TI book on recomendations and found it a bore. Very little useful information but lot's of droning philosophy about he reinvented the way people swim. If there was something there to help me it was clouded in his ego.

For a seasoned swimmer looking to hone skills it may be of more value.

Pete
 

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