Thoughts on scuba diving for people with tubes in their ears???

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IF student/mom is insistent, AND Dr. has signed off (recent surgery) I would also suggest Doc's proplugs as a secondary measure to to keep water out.

Proplugs? Is this something she could obtain at a doctor's office? Or a scuba shop? I will be sure to forward her the information so she can speak with both DAN as well as her doctor about it.

Thanks!
 
I read an article for the pro plug mask. A diver with tubes in his ears has been diving successfully using this mask. Question is what type of problem does this student have that required him to have the tubes in the first place. Having tubes in the ears isin't always for the same reason. Even though the ears may remain dry he may still have problems equalizing or suffer pressure effects from reverse blockage. Having tubes usually means the ears will not drain on their own causing infection and or build up. This can be very dangerous for a diver. I would again consult the ear specialist with documentation on how the mask works and operates and go with the doctors suggestion. The doctors final thoughts on this matter should be where your decision is based.
 
Proplugs? Is this something she could obtain at a doctor's office? Or a scuba shop? I will be sure to forward her the information so she can speak with both DAN as well as her doctor about it.

Thanks!

Doc's Proplugs: The Doctor's Choice for Ear Protection

They are available at a scuba shop. They have a small vent hole that allows student to equalize. They must be fitted (8 different sizes) to the individual.
 
Again, everyone, thanks for the information.

Mom has spoken with doctors and DAN, and DAN has said that since he has tubes in his ears, he would NOT be able to equalize because the air would simply pass through the tubes. However, this is contradictory to what I have read and heard.

Does anyone care to comment on that? I'm confused.

Also, would there be any depth limitation? He will be SSI Junior OW so there is an inherent depth limitation. But anything other than that? In other words, any limitation under the JOW limit?

Thanks again!
 
With tubes in your ears your ears basically remain open all the time. Sounds silly, but the tubes allow the ears to drain because they allow a constant opening much wider than the normal ear has. So DAN is right the person will not be able to equalize because the pressure would not remain. Thats why at depth water will enter the tubes. A person can swim with tubes in their ears because most swimmers dont dive all that deep. Scuba diving is alot different because as you all know the deeper you go the more pressure. It the pressure at depths that will cause the problems. It's a hard thing to see someone have to sit out of something they really love, but again I wouldn't risk it.
 
A person with tubes through their eardrums would not need to equalize, because there would not be any pressure differential. This kid has had repeated ear infections, which is why they put drainage tubes in his ears in the first place. This is most likely due to some malfunction with his eustachian tubes, a not infrequent childhood problem, which most people mature out of.

If he uses a Pro Ear mask he will be able to keep his ears dry. The mask has little tubes connecting the earcups with the lens chamber over the nose and eyes. As you exhale through your nose, air travels out to the earcups and pressurizes them too. It is possible to partially flood the mask yet keep your ears dry because the tubes exit through the top of the mask. It is likewise possible to purge the earcups, should one or both flood, by pushing against the top of the earcup and exhaling through your nose. If this kid has to totally flood or remove his mask underwater, for some training exercise, then his ears will get wet and he could get water in his middle ear resulting in an infection. This should be explained to his DM who can alter the mask removal/purging exercise to a partial mask flooding/purging exercise.

If he combined the Pro Ear mask with Doc's Proplugs, then he would have a better chance of keeping his ears dry. That is of course providing he doesn't dislodge the Pro Ear Plug if the earcup should be displaced underwater.

Doc's Pro Plugs have a small hole in the middle of the plug and are made of flexible silicone. They create a small air chamber between the earplug and the user's eardrum. They flex inward as pressure builds, compressing that little bubble. Surface tension keeps the water from entering through the vent hole down to about 20 ft./7 m. With a pressure differential above 20 ft./7 m. some water can enter the air chamber. The key here is that the water exchange is extremely limited. This reduces ice cream headaches from cold water. It also reduces the response to water entering one's ears, which can make equalization more difficult.

If a person had a functioning eustachian tube, even with a perforated eardrum, it would be possible to keep an ear dry while using a Doc's Pro Plug.

If the kid's eustachian tubes are working now, he might be able to dive, but he really should have the tubes taken out first, IMHO.

I have used both products. I have had a reconstruction of my right eardrum necessitated by scarlet fever when I was six. My reconstructed eardrum is more delicate. I even suffered a reverse squeeze pin-hole leak once, but I healed. Doc's Pro Plugs and ultimately the Pro Ear mask, let me continue diving more safely and comfortably.
 
How does the pro ear mask work with a wetsuit or drysuit hood, any alternations to be made? I know a few people who would be intrested in this mask and being they all dive cold water and need to wear a hood?

Thanks
 
Doc's Pro Plugs are available at dive shops. They have a series of sizing forms, then you buy the form which fits.

To use a hood with a Pro Ear Mask, you need to have cut outs over the ears, so the ear cups directly contact your head. The Pro Ear company makes a double layer hood with the requisite cut outs on the inner hood, then the outer hood is pulled up over the inner hood and the ear cups.

You can also modify a regular hood by making holes in it over your ears. To do this, put the hood on and have someone trace over where your ears are located. Cut out the traced area. Make the cuts smallish. Worst case you would have to cut away a little more material. Too big a hole means another try with a new hood. You will want to have some overlap of the hood material over the ear cup skirts.

Either method really holds the ear cups in place. You may also need to make bigger vent holes in a modified hood, because you exhale through your mask more often.

A tropical beanie cap, the kind with a chin strap, can also be used. Get one size larger so it fits over the earcups. You have to ventilate the beanie. Otherwise it will act like a mini lift bag, looped under your chin.

Insulation value with either hood arrangement is fine. Your ears and the sides of your head near your temples are covered by the earcups. Also, you are blowing dry, warm air into the earcups. This is rather nice in cold water environments.

A disclaimer: I do not now, nor have I ever had, any association with the producers or sales agents of the products I have discussed here.
 
All this information is great. I really do appreciate everyone taking the time to answer this question with insight and compassion.

Again, thanks!
 
"I have Tubes in my ears right now, so that means I can not Dive because of the tubes. But, I still want to know what kind of ear infection I would end up getting if I did Dive. What would happen if I did try the Intro to Scuba in a Swimming Pool with the tubes I have in my ears right now? I'm really interested in wanting to know. Any kind reply would be greatly appreciated. " Snorkelcorey.
 
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