The zoo that is AOW class; safely progressing through dives 1-20 post-OW

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When I took my AOW class, it was a zoo. I posted at length here when I took it, and the consensus reply was that AOW class is like that. Several/many students, disorganized, widely varying diving skill, usually not experienced enough to be good buddies, often quite a few students per instructor based on the presumption that everyone already knows how to dive and doesn't need personal handholding as can be the case in OW.

The typical progression is PPB followed by Navigation followed by the night and deep dives with these last being in either order. The last two are inherently more hazardous than a shallow reef bimble. During these dives, the student will typically be in a far more hazardous environment than in any dive they have completed previously. The relationship between depth and safety has been well documented by DAN. The hazards of night diving are less studied but still clear.

DAN statistics have shown that divers who have completed OW but have not completed 20 dives are at the highest risk for accidents.

While the event at A&I contains enough things going wrong to allow anyone to use it as evidence to support their safety agenda du jour, I think the broader question it raises is this:

How can the dive community (professionals and individual divers alike) do a better job shepherding new divers through the first 20 dives, so that they can build the experience they need to be safe, independent divers?
Shallow reef bimbles and easy "fun dives" from shore build confidence but there is the risk that they cause critical skills to erode because they are not relevant to low-risk dives. On any easy, shallow dive, most people aren't good buddies because the surface is right there. On these dives people don't really do any gas planning, they just figure they'll get back on the boat (or on shore) with 500 PSI. The dive briefing can be skipped because there's nothing much to brief. NDL isn't a factor, so no point in using tables or checking the computer. You won't learn to call a dive when you should, because these dives don't usually provide a reason for that.

On the other hand, running a fun dive on a shallow reef bimble like a drill sergeant is just going to turn people off to diving.

So we have people who start out by practicing sloppy diving. They get to be good at diving in a sloppy fashion, and show up at AOW with weak skills across the board and, well, sloppy procedures. I see instructors teaching AOW as being, too often, there to get these students through some potentially hazardous dives without an accident. For a talented instructor with only a few students, it works out OK. With more students it depends on the luck of the draw, class of (say) 10 if half of them are good divers it will work out.

I'm not an instructor, and teaching isn't my thing. I wonder though, whether instructors and DMs get numb to the poor dive skills, and get so used to stepping in and saving people from themselves that they let the classes get bigger until they get a particularly bad group and have a near miss or worse.

I don't know what the answer is, but there must be one.
 
Sounds like it was a cluster.

My Advanced experience was the total opposite. 4 separate specialties of 2 or 3 dives each (SDI), most with just regular buddy and I (we did Advanced together). The semi-private classes just happened. Wasn't intentional. It was very nice as we got a lot more of instructors' attention as they weren't dealing with a lot of other students.

Because of that attention, and a lot of dives in between on my part, my diving has improved by leaps and bounds since I did the first specialty in late April.
 
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Clubs--yes. I used to say the same thing to OW students another way--Try to buddy with someone more experienced (if at all possible)--ideally someone with Rescue cert. We have a dive club here which I joined very briefly (I live too far for it be practical). I was buddied with such a person--a DM as I vaguely recall.
The AOW course I took (in Florida) had only 4 students--a number similar to the courses here. I just assumed that was the norm. Never heard of an AOW course of 10, but this isn't the Fla. or the Caribbean.
Side note--I heard years ago the number two group likely to get into accidents after newbies is seasoned divers, possibly instructors, who have gotten complacent.
 
The quality of any training course is entirely dictated by the instructor who runs it.

If divers were generally more quality selective when sourcing instructors for training, there'd be less horror stories... and more incentive for the dross instructor to raise their game.

Sadly, in general, people want an easy-ride attendance course en-route to being handed a valueless c-card; and they want it for the cheapest price.

The training market shapes to supply that demand.
 
My AOW - just completed my dives for it - consisted of an evening of classroom talk and then checking off required dives. I felt the real value was in forcing newer divers to experience more risky diving. I didn't feel there was much value added from the presence of an instructor on these dives, but one dive (nav and search and recovery) did have a pretty useful training assistant diver. What DevonDiver says makes sense - but how do you ask "hey, all the instructors I have had from you so far are not helping my diving much, do you have someone who teaches better?" This does not seem to be a winning strategy...
 
I had a less than stellar experience in OW training. Pretty much the same as I've heard expressed here many times. Overweighted, on your knees, poorly presented and managed by a guy with danglies and retractor mounted gear he wasn't using.

As a result of that experience I carefully chose our instructor for our AOW. He is a no nonsense tech instructor that teaches sidemount, full cave and CCR. When asked, he said he had never taught a student on their knees and didn't know how to sell gear and dive vacations. He taught well beyond the requirements of the course and I really can't wait to dive with him again. We were taught all the specialties on every dive except the first two where we focused on a shakedown of buoyancy, trim, finning techiques and navigation.

The second and third day we didn't dive without a full gas management dive plan on our slate with turn pressures and times. We switched to a hang tank of 70% at 15 feet on every dive. We launched a buoy on every dive. We went to 100 feet on every dive which in our lake requires lights and on the later dives we did our descents and ascents without reference to the bottom which required navigation to find our targets. We learned to act as a team of pairs and dive at an appropriate speed and with the appropriate fin technique to the task.

He made sure that there was an assistant and/or an observer with every pair and he watched the whole team. There were 5 students in the class. I would dive again with any of them without question. My wife and I already had several dives to 100 and several night dives before we took the class. We had quite a bit of practice with navigation and our buoyancy and trim was not too shabby. Two others in the class were at dive number 10 at the beginning. We all left that class as much better divers. Just diving with him would make you a better diver.

As has been said many times around here, it really is all about the instructor. Thanks for the thread.
 
My AOW - just completed my dives for it - consisted of an evening of classroom talk and then checking off required dives. I felt the real value was in forcing newer divers to experience more risky diving. I didn't feel there was much value added from the presence of an instructor on these dives, but one dive (nav and search and recovery) did have a pretty useful training assistant diver. What DevonDiver says makes sense - but how do you ask "hey, all the instructors I have had from you so far are not helping my diving much, do you have someone who teaches better?" This does not seem to be a winning strategy...
That's pretty close to what I asked but I was a bit more diplomatic about the wording. I've seen your writing so I'm sure you would be too. I also did a little stealth investigation here on SB while searching.
 
The second and third day we didn't dive without a full gas management dive plan on our slate with turn pressures and times. We switched to a hang tank of 70% at 15 feet on every dive.

That's a new one on me. I'm surprised course or agency standards permit that (presuming you do not have Advanced Nitrox certification).
 

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