The shape of a dive table

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When you took your Open Water course, among other things, you learned that, when we dive, our body accumulates excessive Nitrogen and then when we surface this extra Nitrogen gets released.

You also learned that this intake/release of Nitrogen is somehow a function of depth and time and most likely you were taught to track it by using a dive table:
..... select the depth column .... go down until you find your bottom time (rounded-up) .... go right to find the pressure group at the end of the dive ..... look for your surface interval time (range) .... go down to find your pressure group at the end of the surface interval ..... and if you are doing a repetitive dive ..... turn the dive table around ..... find the column with the Pressure group at the beginning of the dive .... look for the row with the depth of the repetitive dive .... find the cross-section .... write down the Residual Nitrogen ..... turn the table around and repeat procedure ... remembering to add the RN to the bottom time ......

But, have you ever wondered how a dive table really works?
Do you know that a dive table has a shape that tracks the nitrogen loading during the dive and is not just a large collection of boxes with numbers in it?

Let's see an example together.
In the figure below we have a dive profile of a real multi-level dive with a maximum depth of 90ft and bottom time of 40 minutes (including a safety stop of 3 min).
epg_1.jpg

The first thing we notice is that this dive would NOT be possible using a dive table (40 minutes at 90ft is way into deco) .... this is because dive tables assume squared profiles .....

The second thing we notice is that this dive is actually feasible for most AOW recreational divers - equipped with dive computers - as it is NOT a deco dive.

In fact, if we analyze this dive using divePAL (ZH-L16C - moderate conservatism), we find out that the maximum value of nitrogen loading during the dive was ~88% and the N2 load at the end of the dive was ~76%.
See figure below.
epg_2.jpg

So, since this dive is feasible, what should its Pressure Group be?
Or even better, how does the Pressure Group change during this dive?
What is the shape of the dive table for this dive?

In the version 0.12 of divePAL Windows, we introduced the feature Estimated Pressure Group that visualize how the PG progresses (changes) during a dive.

In the image below we can see that 10 minutes into the dive the EPG was B.

At half point into the dive it was I, then it peaked at Q at about minute 33 and adjusted at that level till the end of the dive.
epg_3.jpg

When I look at the dive tables in this way I almost like them :D

Alberto (aka eDiver)
 
Would you care to share methodology or references for that extrapolation to PGs?

I suspect you are going where no man has gone before. I think I see some potential of running "table dives" on Divepal along with the various SI credit table max values for each PG and examining the end of dive and end of SI tissue loading profiles. But that sure sounds like a lot of work

Or you could just make me go play with it and see what I can figure out. Next week maybe. I'm going away this week to get my newly certified granddaughter a little dive time.
 
Alberto, I just love the stuff you're doing with your program and your tutorials. This is really a cool way to educate people about what's theorized to be going on during their dives. Kudos to you!
 
Alberto,

I like this –a lot. It visualizes something that has been hard for me to grasp. Looking at the nitrogen loading line and the “tables” line, one can see that they don’t follow each other very well near the end of the dive. I would guess that this is due to the nonlinearity of loading and changes in the leading compartment. Your presentation of the tables in this way is something that I have never seen before. I’ve sort of had some fuzzy idea about all this, but the graphical presentation is crystal clear. It also combines "DC" think and "tables" think quite nicely, no reason for them to be so seemingly mutually exclusive.

I’m starting to buy into Doppler’s “waypoints” in a dive. In part, ascend no slower than recommended up to the off-gassing ceiling, then no faster up through stops to surface.

Deep stops are optional and highly controversial, being handled in another thread. I just plan to keep an eye of the level of super-saturation and react accordingly.

Really nice job!
 
Would you care to share methodology or references for that extrapolation to PGs?...... I suspect you are going where no man has gone before......
As you pointed out, we are breaking new grounds here.
As far as I know there are no tables to determine PGs of real multi-level dives ... so we had to invent them ;)
This also mean that we need to call our PGs "Estimated Pressure Groups"... as there is now way to make a 1-to-1 comparison with something else.
To determine our EPGs, we integrate the dive profile at each sample and we use the resulting values (depth and time) to access a look-up table from which we access the resulting EPG letter (A to Z)

...... I think I see some potential of running "table dives" on Divepal along with the various SI credit table max values for each PG and examining the end of dive and end of SI tissue loading profiles. But that sure sounds like a lot of work.....
No need to do all that work ..... divePAL does it for you ;)
In the image below, you can see that during a SI of 1 hour, the EPG went from Q to F
epg_4.jpg


...... . I'm going away this week to get my newly certified granddaughter a little dive time.
Have fun and dive safe.

Alberto (aka eDiver)
 
Great stuff. This along with the various dive computer education is fantastic. As mentioned in my predator review even I learned some stuff from your material and I rate myself well informed.
 
Mike Emmerman identified a way to move from computer to Pressure Group in a paper presented at the AAUS Dive Computer Workshop back in the late 1980s.
 

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