the joys of changing the harness on your halcyon

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I have a halcyon eclipse and I have fitted an OMS comfort harness to it, the quality is great and the ability to adjust the fit is exellent, not to mention the ease in taking it off. dont let any D I R gurus tell you anything else, you wont die , it is safe, and looks great and is a lot more comfortable.
 
Adjustability is important with BP/W. Some folks struggle with their harness.
 
I've been wondering about that. The WKPP followers always talk about how quick releases, etc. are failure points, but have there been actual accidents where a quick release failed and resulted in an accident or fatality?
 
*Floater*:
I've been wondering about that. The WKPP followers always talk about how quick releases, etc. are failure points, but have there been actual accidents where a quick release failed and resulted in an accident or fatality?

*Floater* makes an interesting distinction.

There is a huge difference betaeen "you're going to die" and "failure point."

I have twice now seen harnesses with plastic quick release buckles fail ("failure point") because someone (once the owner, the other time, the owner's buddy) has put a tank down hard onto the buckle and it broke. We're talking about a pitching boat, no room and a heavy steel tank crashing down from the sky.

In both cases, the owner did not die. In one case, their day was done and in the other case we simply zip tied the strap together and they finished the dive day.

A failure point does not always equal certain death. Sometimes, a failure point means you are putting your dive day at risk as well. While death will surely ruin your day, so will a busted BC.

As one who drank the Kool-aid long ago, I understand that not everyone can get in an out of their BP/W easily. Usually this is caused by the harness being poorly adjusted, the owner using poor form to don and doff, or some other individual issue (injury prohibiting range of motion, the owner simply out of shape, etc.)

You don't need to be Houdini to get in and out of one of these things. I have the flexibility of a glass rod, for heaven's sake - and I do fine. But it does take practice.

A "comfort harness" (shameless marketing jargon off) is an excellent way for someone making the transition from a traditional BC to a BP/W. My wife, for example. We're going out to dive a Halcyon BP/W I rigged up with a CH - and she's pretty fired up to try it. I know there is simply no way she'd try a BP/W with a 1 piece harness - she's told me this many times. A 1 piece harness doesn't look like a BC, it doesn't have the familiar adjustable shoulder straps, etc... hey - whatever. It will get her to try it. If she digs it, I'll eBay her Libra. If she hates it, I'll eBay the plate and wack Comfort Harness to someone else who is leary of the 1-piece. Its all good.

Personally, I can't recommend a one piece harness enough. Its been flawless over hundreds of dives so far. The only time I've had to ever re-adjust it is when I lost weight or when I dive a skin. The rest of the time, its one less thing I have to think about. It just works.

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Ken
 
Failure points aside, I went on a dive yesterday to help a fellow scubaboarder get his new backplate fitted properly. I showed him how high it should be on his back, and he went to work changing the lengths of the velcro shoulder straps, cinching down the adjustable underarm straps, deciding the chest strap/d-ring holders were uncomfortable there, re-velcroing the shoulder straps to try to position them better, re-lengthening and cinching the underarm straps, deciding the quick-releases weren't accessable like that, and repeating the process numerous times in an effort to get everything the way he wanted it.

He asked me if I had the same problems with my rig, and I said "No... I use a single piece of webbing, so I only had to fit it once and put a couple of triglides on to keep the webbing in place. Now it just fits, and I put the hardware exactly where I want it. I know it's going to be set like that every time I go to put it on."

I demonstrated putting it on then unclipped the waist buckle and addressed the "struggling with a harness" story by taking it back off, which took only slightly less time than it took to say, "Does it look hard?" If it fits right, I don't personally see the value in adjustablity unless you expect multiple divers to use it. My gear isn't adjustable, but my wife, who occasionally lends her gear to friends who want to dive with me, has a harness that is. Since her gear needs to change size, adjustability makes sense.

Our friend with the adjustable harness, despite eventually getting a good fit and then enjoying a dive that was much more stable and well-trimmed than his first attempt with a BP, tells me he plans to return the harness and buy a piece of webbing. He already has all the buckles, D-rings, and triglides he'll need, so it'll be simpler and much more cost-effective.

bignumber2, it sounds like you're really happy with your new harness. I'm glad to hear it. Having used both adjustable "comfort" harnesses and properly fitted hogarthian harnesses though, I'm not at all convinced the single piece of webbing isn't every bit as comfortable.
 
I had a plastic buckle break on my shoulder strap during an ice dive. I didn't die, but it wasn't a fun experience having the harness and tank almost come off my back. Once that happened, I moved to a one piece harness and have loved it ever since. I agree with Ken, it does take some getting used to getting in and out of it. But once you get the hang of it, it is so nice. Many of the DIR recommendations have come out of their experiences in cave diving (i.e. WKPP). Having a plastic buckle break while 10K feet into a cave with hours worth of deco is not the ideal situation.

DJ
 
Makes one wonder why someone doesn't make an adjustable harness with stainless steel hardware instead of plastic.

the K
 
Hi The Kraken,

I still waiting on the plate you promised some months ago LOL!

I would be possible to make an adjustable harness with ss parts, but Tobin has already thought of it:
http://deepseasupply.com/page6.html
The only thing I would replace on that harness would be the quick release buckles with a ss belt buckles.

SangP
 
The Kraken:
Makes one wonder why someone doesn't make an adjustable harness with stainless steel hardware instead of plastic.

the K

There is no steel Fastex.

K
 

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