Teaching my daughter scuba diving?

[phoenix31tt]

Yeah, I would say they were brave because, if I believe a father can practice skills in a pool with his daughter I must be an insensitive a$$. 0-24 dives and you have this all figured out - thank goodness you don't suffer from over confidence.

lol... ok.... then...

touchy much??

 

[bpotkin]

Quero, you are correct about me still working on my skills. At the same time, at close 100 dives, I
have enough overall experience to know about blowing bubbles, hand swimming, bad finning,
trim, boeyancy etc. I have taken the following specialties: Dry suit diver, deep diver, underwater
navigator, night diver and peak performance buoyancy. Have I mastered my dry suit, buoyancy
or any other aspect of diving? Of course not! However can I safely make a quality effort in
teaching my Daughter basic skills "in my pool" prior to her "official Ow class"? I think you should
accept the idea that there is a high likelyhood that what I'm doing is benificial.

 

[phoenix31tt]

bpotkin... have you accepted that there is a high likelyhood that what you're doing is beneficial?....

if so then what everybody else accepts doesn't really matter...

time to get her certified and get her out in the ocean where the real fun begins!!

 

[Simon-]

To the OP,

Forget all the posturing and procrastination by some of the posters on the thread. You obviously think it's a good idea or else you wouldn't have started the thread.

 

[Quero]

Quero, you are correct about me still working on my skills. At the same time, at close 100 dives, I
have enough overall experience to know about blowing bubbles, hand swimming, bad finning,
trim, boeyancy etc. I have taken the following specialties: Dry suit diver, deep diver, underwater
navigator, night diver and peak performance buoyancy. Have I mastered my dry suit, buoyancy
or any other aspect of diving? Of course not! However can I safely make a quality effort in
teaching my Daughter basic skills "in my pool" prior to her "official Ow class"? I think you should
accept the idea that there is a high likelyhood that what I'm doing is benificial.

Look, you asked for reactions and you got a range of reactions. In the case of reactions you don't like, such as mine, you have become overtly defensive and argumentative. If you are unwilling to accept a range of reactions and are going to be offended when someone doesn't offer you the affirmation you are seeking, then don't ask for opinions. You had already made up your mind to take on the role of scuba instructor with your daughter before you even started the thread, so really the whole exercise was rather pointless since you only listen to what you want to hear.

 

[Diver0001]

Quero, you are correct about me still working on my skills. At the same time, at close 100 dives, I
have enough overall experience to know about blowing bubbles, hand swimming, bad finning,
trim, boeyancy etc. I have taken the following specialties: Dry suit diver, deep diver, underwater
navigator, night diver and peak performance buoyancy. Have I mastered my dry suit, buoyancy
or any other aspect of diving? Of course not! However can I safely make a quality effort in
teaching my Daughter basic skills "in my pool" prior to her "official Ow class"? I think you should
accept the idea that there is a high likelyhood that what I'm doing is benificial.

Dude, you've completely missed the point. She's telling you, as are several others in this thread, that there's a good chance that "you don't know what you don't know". In order to avoid certain mistakes, you first have to be aware that you're making them. You may not trust instructors but you may be surprised what's involved in becoming one and you'd be surprised how much teaching people how to dive "teaches you how to teach".

So far you've been completely closed to even considering the possibility that "you don't know what you don't know" and argue instead that you know what you're doing. That may or may not be true (like I said before you could be doing everything perfectly and nobody here knows you). On the other hand, nobody can make you listen but it might be in your best interest if you did.

R..

 

[NCadiver]

Quero, you are correct about me still working on my skills. At the same time, at close 100 dives, I
have enough overall experience to know about blowing bubbles, hand swimming, bad finning,
trim, boeyancy etc. I have taken the following specialties: Dry suit diver, deep diver, underwater
navigator, night diver and peak performance buoyancy. Have I mastered my dry suit, buoyancy
or any other aspect of diving? Of course not! However can I safely make a quality effort in
teaching my Daughter basic skills "in my pool" prior to her "official Ow class"? I think you should
accept the idea that there is a high likelyhood that what I'm doing is benificial.

If you're so good and know so much why don't you take the instructor exam.

 

[DaleC]

lol... ok.... then...

touchy much??

No just countering a rather clumsy attempt to negate a perspective by attacking the character. I've studied a little too much Rush Limbaugh for that.

We all argue from our own perspective and agendas. A new diver, still in the middle of the formal instruction paradigm, may see only that. An entrenched "professional" may only see that. A "self made" diver may only see that.

I have moved through several paradigms and can see an issue from varying perspectives so I generally take the middle road, allowing for deviations in the capabilities and tendencies of others. Part of that is seeing the value in Formal instruction while at the same time knowing it is not "the only way".

I appreciate the dive industry for what it is but do not accept that it must control my every move within diving. Like a person who has learned to swim, I am able to let go of that "life preserver".

 

[rhwestfall]

I appreciate the dive industry for what it is but do not accept that it must control my every move within diving.

Perhaps the quote of the decade.......

 

[Hawkwood]

Look, you asked for reactions and you got a range of reactions. In the case of reactions you don't like, such as mine, you have become overtly defensive and argumentative. If you are unwilling to accept a range of reactions and are going to be offended when someone doesn't offer you the affirmation you are seeking, then don't ask for opinions. You had already made up your mind to take on the role of scuba instructor with your daughter before you even started the thread, so really the whole exercise was rather pointless since you only listen to what you want to hear.

Dude, you've completely missed the point. She's telling you, as are several others in this thread, that there's a good chance that "you don't know what you don't know". In order to avoid certain mistakes, you first have to be aware that you're making them. You may not trust instructors but you may be surprised what's involved in becoming one and you'd be surprised how much teaching people how to dive "teaches you how to teach".

So far you've been completely closed to even considering the possibility that "you don't know what you don't know" and argue instead that you know what you're doing. That may or may not be true (like I said before you could be doing everything perfectly and nobody here knows you). On the other hand, nobody can make you listen but it might be in your best interest if you did.

R..

The OP has not been the only one with those opinions. A question was asked and opinions requested. The OP and others dismissed those responses that were contrary. Why bother to ask?