Tank mounting on new Diverite backplate and wing.

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Cody Frohmader

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Hello, I recently upgraded to a Diverite backplate and wing (BPW) from my local dive shop, this is my first BPW set up. It is a transpack harness, stainless lite backplate, and a voyager wing. When I purchased it, it did not come with bolts to hold the wing to the backplate. The sales rep told me it does not come with bolts, and they are not necessary, because the tank will hold the wing in place. After about 10 dives I have discovered that, although the tank does hold the wing in place, it is very difficult to try to position the wing while I latch the tank bands, and it ends up being a bit crooked. I asked another dive shop for a second opinion, and they told me it should have bolts. The bolts do hold the wing in place nicely, but the bolt heads stick up a small amount above the grommets in the wing, so the tank is resting just against the two bolt heads. Before I installed the bolts, the tank rested against the grommets, because the rubber pad on the tank band was not thick enough to space it above the grommets. I feel this is not a good mounting surface, plus over time my tank will get divots rubbed in from only contacting the metal grommets, or now, the bolt heads. I did bring this concern up to the original dive shop when I purchased the set up, but they assured me it would be fine. The second dive shop said the same, and that the tank now resting on the bolt heads would be fine too. This doesn’t seem right to me. One other BPW set up I looked at had some sort of a soft tank adapter to keep the tank spaced above the grommets and bolts. I reached out to Diverite, but never received a response. I don’t believe a metal single tank adapter is appropriate here. What do I do? Thanks.
 
Think a stabilizer like this one from OMS will give you the clearance you're looking for? Some wings have these integrated, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't just slide this in between.

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Or just buy an STA.
Very useful if switching between singles & doubles. The drawback is things are a bit more "rolly" since the tank mass is further away. For a singles-only rig, I'd use the low-profile stabilizer bars.
 
Think a stabilizer like this one from OMS will give you the clearance you're looking for? Some wings have these integrated, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't just slide this in between.

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Yeah, I considered one of these. I guess I won't know without buying one of it will give me the clearance. Diverite is a pretty popular brand, you'd think it would have the necessary clearance built in, so I keep wondering if I'm doing something wrong. I like the plastic screw idea too.
 
I keep wondering if I'm doing something wrong.
You're not, and this is a common question when someone is looking at options for mounting a single tank to a backplate. Essentially backplates were initially designed for doubles, and there are four options for mounting a single tank to a backplate, and all with their own pros and cons.

A) Tank mounted directly to the backplate using cam bands threaded through the backplate slots, with the wing just sandwiched in between with no additional hardware. This keeps the tank as close as possible to your body, and as long as the cam bands are tight, you're mounting a cylinder to a flat plate and you don't get much roll once cinched down. There are only two downsides - if the wing has band slots much larger than the 2" bands (or open webbing like many dive rite wings), then you might need to adjust wing position to your liking each time you change tanks, also, if your wing has holes in it protected by grommets, now your cylinder isn't sitting on the flat of the backplate, its teetering on top of those grommets a bit and you'll get a little tank roll even if your cam bands are very tight.

B) Tank mounted directly to the backplate using cam bands threaded through the backplate slots, wing sandwiched in between, and book screws holding the wing in a fixed position to the backplate. This keeps the tank relatively close as well, but exacerbates the teetering tank issue since now your tank is perched on top of two screw heads. In this case you would definitely want to use plastic book screws to avoid tank wear. Slightly less ideal from a stability perspective, but at least you're not having to monkey around with wing position adjustments when you're doing a tank change on a rocking boat.

C) Tank mounted directly to the backplate as two options above, cam bands still threaded through the backplate, but some type of two-rod stablizer sandwiched between the tank and the wing, like that OMS stabilizer addon in a post above, or designed into a wing like these:
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This slightly moves the tank a little further away from you, but not nearly as much as a metal single tank adapter, and your wing position can still be locked in place with book screws since the stabilizer not only helps mitigate tank roll since now the cylinder is cradled between two rods instead of perching on the center of the backplate or mounting hardware, but it also ideally moves the tank away from the plate just enough that you're not constantly grinding the tank on the book screws.

D) Single tank adapter - Instead of running the cam bands through the backplate, a single tank adapter bolts to the backplate, and the cam bands run through the STA. The cylinder is cradled between the two sides of the STA, so it is super stable, but it is extra hardware and moves the tank that much farther away from the diver. In reality, I'm not sure any of us would notice the difference of a half inch between an STA and no STA.
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Although now you've got a stainless steel bracket touching your tank directly, and if you dive galvanized steel tanks I wouldn't even give that another thought, but if you're using an aluminum tank with fancy paintjob, you'll get some wear over time, and thats unavoidable.

Personally, the single tank steel plate I use for local freshwater diving has plastic book screws holding the wing in place and tank stabilizers built into the wing. I like that option the best, but there are no wrong answers as long as your tank is firmly attached to your plate.
 
@Cody Frohmader

First of all, welcome to SB
Second, try using paragraphs, it makes posts easier to read.

I have been using a DiveRite SS plate and Voyager wing for probably eight or nine years, excellent choice.
The sales rep told me it does not come with bolts, and they are not necessary, because the tank will hold the wing in place.
When I got my initial set up from my LDS I used plastic bolts, however DiveRite make SS bolts that are flat and don't touch the tank.


The rest of what your LDS rep told you is utter bollox!

D) Single tank adapter - Instead of running the cam bands through the backplate, a single tank adapter bolts to the backplate, and the cam bands run through the STA. The cylinder is cradled between the two sides of the STA, so it is super stable, but it is extra hardware and moves the tank that much farther away from the diver. In reality, I'm not sure any of us would notice the difference of a half inch between an STA and no STA.
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I bought this STA last year from the local Halcyon shop and what they did not provide were the plastic covers fro the bolts resulting in ripping the outer part of my new 7mm wetsuit.

I also found that the weighted STA made my rig a bit "rolly" and stopped using it. I don't actually need it when I dive a 5mm suit, and I'm very happy I didn't use it with my drysuit.
 
You can also just use zip ties through the cam band slots to hold it in place.

Remove cam bands, tie zip ties snug but not too tight, put cam bands back. It works fine.
 

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