PfcAJ
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Well, if you want me to pick apart your post and show you whats wrong with it and why it does mesh with DIR diving, I'll do it.... its 6pm on a lazy Tuesday evening, and I have plenty of free time.
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I refer you to GUE General Procedure Technical Bulletin 091401‐001, Stage Management Clips, for the real deal GUE stance.
I've thought about the double ender/ loop thing, but having to dig for a double ender just cuz a stage rubberband broke doesn't jive with the dives I do.
Where can I find these procedures documents so that I can stop bugging you guys all the time?
Unfortunately for this one "GUE General Procedure Technical Bulletin 091401‐001, Stage Management Clip" and other similar protocols, you need to be a member on GUE.com and I think may need to pay a membership fee to view it (I am not 100% certain)
For Cave2, Danny required us to have a bungee-cord loop where the clip would go, and a double-ender.
I think the official policy is the bungee loop OR two rubber hose retainers (aka wheelbarrow/bike innertubes
Since the rubber retainers seem to corrode much quicker in fresh than salt, and due to the longer dives/horizontal distance covered, the loop makes a lot of sense in a cave, and is less critical in OW.
I'd rather use the double-ender as it's one less clip riding around on stage/deco regs to snag up and cause confusion. Finding a double-ender takes a few seconds (especially as I'd already have one on the right D-ring for the light anyway)
I refer you to both GUE procedure document which essentially says "Divers not using a clip must use two rubber loops" and GUE's Cave III instructor that said basically "These rubber loops fail a lot in fresh water, so you guys need to add the bungee loops if you want to be in my class"![]()
Alright, that's not unreasonable. I'll wait until after my Fundies class to see if I'm into the whole thing before I grab a membership. Thanks for all your (collective) help.
Well, if we're going down that road, my cave instructor (who also happens to be a cave 3 inst...) explained the pros and cons of each, and I made a decision... You like loops, I like clips, Rainer likes nothing, and it really doesn't make a hill of beans of difference for 99% of dives.
The DIN thing makes more of a difference than clips, as does not color coding regs, hose length, MOD markings, and having a few rubber bands on there, and bending the SPG back.