Starting to get my sidemounted bailouts dialed in nicely

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tstormdiver

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After a miserable failed attempt, several months ago, at sidemounting my AL80's for eventual CCR Cave, my instructor helped me to get my cylinders lined out. Some of my issues were from using a Golem Gear sidemount butt plate mounted on the back plate. While a nice tool, it was too low for me. It is not adjustable & with my short arms, it was very difficult to reach the rails to attach the cylinders. The other issue was I had really no reference of where to set the cam bands on the cylinder. The one time I took the configuration to the pool I fought & fought to attach the cylinders & with a lot of struggle, I succeeded. A few weeks later I tried to take it to the quarry & after another huge & unsuccessful struggle, I gave up. In the time following, I just got very familiar with my normal AL40. Well,... Hopefully I will be starting my CCR Cave course in Oct. So,... now I'm back to having to deal with the AL80 bailouts. I changed out the the butt plate with a butterfly style D-rings that have 2" slots to fit on my crotch strap. I adjusted it up to my tail bone area, that I could easily reach. My instructor measured me from the D-rings to arm pit, then we adjusted the cam straps the same length from the center of the burst disc nut to the end of the short rope the bottom clip was on. I took the configuration back to the pool & it was nearly what I needed. Only change I had to make was to add a pound of weight to each shoulder, to counter act the cylinders pulling me down at the feet. After that, I was perfectly trimmed out, the bottles resting in line with my body & tucked in nicely. I think this may actually be doable. :cool2:
 
Good to here! I had some trouble with my buttplate and well... I butchered the crap out of it. Now it looks like hell but dives great. Thought about buying the tech plate that rides a little higher but still not sure it will be any better. The length of bungee at the neck seemed to be more important than the lower attachment for me.


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Good to here! I had some trouble with my buttplate and well... I butchered the crap out of it. Now it looks like hell but dives great. Thought about buying the tech plate that rides a little higher but still not sure it will be any better. The length of bungee at the neck seemed to be more important than the lower attachment for me.


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I also tried the Tech plate. It was too stiff for the height of my breather & caused more problems than it solved. Tried the tech plate also on my doubles, but it was too tightly held between myself & my cylinders.
 
I'm still working on getting this sorted as well. What are you using for upper attachment? Bungee loop? Clothesline? Ring/choker?


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Not sure if you were asking the OP or me but I use a loop bungee that goes around the valve handle and regulator. I do not use any metal to metal attachments and usually get the tanks on while in the water while cave diving. When I am able I put an equipment line with bailout tanks attached but if rough sees will suit up on the boat and jump. Haven't had a problem yet without using a metal to metal connection.

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I'm rockin bungee loops as well at the moment but have concerns about them for boat entry. The DiveRight ring/choker system looks like it would be the most secure, but I've heard rumor of people having issues manipulating them with gloves.


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After trying and not liking the ring bungiee/DR webbing chokers system on my revo, I've taken to replacing the chokers with fairly tight loops of bungiee around the valve. They function like a choker, sucking the top clip up and back against the valve, but don't require a ring bungie because the top clip can be pulled away from the bottle and clipped off on the shoulder d-ring like it was being side slung.

On the boat, the bottles hang securely off the d-ring by the clip; in the water, the bungiee sucks the nose of the bottle up under the armpit almost as snugly as a ring bungiee/choker combo would.
 
I'm still working on getting this sorted as well. What are you using for upper attachment? Bungee loop? Clothesline? Ring/choker?


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I use a bungee loop on a small strip of 1-1/2" webbing I bought from Edd at Cave Adventures, around the valve handle also. Took it off my SMS100 & put it between my wing & back plate. The cylinders tucked up nicely under my arm pits in line with my body. The only metal I use on it is a double ended clip to help me find the bungee loops, that I remove after installing the cylinders.
 

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