Splitting weight between dumpable and fixed

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amajamar

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If I want to carry a total of 20lbs of lead, what would the safest proportion of dumpable to non-dumpable weight be?

Would 12lbs dumpable weight create enough buoyancy to be considered safe?


Thanks.


amajamar
 
I think thats a great idea. Sometimes during the "take your BC off at the bottom of the pool" skill students may tend to float. It will probally depend on what your wearing for exposure protection, body comp, and your rig. Give it a try.
 
Well, that's a consideration (BC removal)! I wasn't thinking about that!

That's easy when wearing a weight belt, but when completely weight integrated, it may be more challenging.

I was originally asking about dumping weight to make a bouyant accent....

Hmmmm...?!
 
Most folks will probably answer that a bouyant ascent shouldn't weigh heavily in your decision making process. Your dives should be planned in such a way that you never run out of gas and short of being attacked by sharks allows a slow controlled ascent.

With regard to how to split your weight there are a few things I would consider:

1. How much weight is required by you, your exposure protection and your rig to achieve neutral bouyancy at or near the surface? This will accomodate comfortable doffing/donning of your bc both on the surface and while submerged. And should be all the weight you require for your dive.

2. Ditchable vs. non ditchable. For average recreational dives(not drysuit, cold water), all this weight should easily fit within the ditchable category, regardless of whether it's on a belt or in integrated pockets. Although, after considering the above, you might want it on your belt. The only reason I might want to move some of this weight to a non ditchable position is to aid in trim.

3. Non ditchable weight. If you're using a stainless backplate or steel tanks or other non ditchable weight, you will be negative by that amount if you were to loose bouyancy while at depth. Hence the reason why people who are utilizing largely non ditchable weight also tend to ensure that they have redundant bouyancy in the form of a dry suit, 2 bc bladders or an appropriately large smb or lift bag.

Does this make sense and help answer your question?
 
Being able to doff and don when entangled is really nice and worthwhile planning your wieght positioning to allow for. There was a recent thread on the subject with a lot more details.
 
I just noticed you're in Mass and so may very well be diving a drysuit and steel tanks. In which case, you're probably more bouyant and should listen to someone more experienced in drysuit diving than me. I'm a warm water specialist although that may soon change.
 
Solve the BC removal problem and buoyant ascent issue by wearng only the weight required for trim in your BC, ditchable or in fixed trm pockets or even tied to your cylinder. Put the rest on a belt or independent weight harness.

If you use something like a DUI harness or belt pocket weights you can elect to not dump all of the the ditchable weight for a more managed buopyant ascent.

Pete
 
GrumpyOldGuy:
Being able to doff and don when entangled is really nice and worthwhile planning your wieght positioning to allow for. There was a recent thread on the subject with a lot more details.

I'll second what GOG just said but add that it's not just entanglement that might lead to needing to doff and don. Tanks coming loose in the cam straps and a buddies in ability to secure is the one I've run into most frequently. Just keep in mind that if diving wet, neutral at depth and near the surface will very by the amount your suit compresses and you may want to accomodate for that.
 
Donning and doffing is a consideration, all the weight being in the BC would mean that the BC would sink and the 7mm wrapped diver would float!

Maybe splitting up some weight and keeping the belt on is a good idea, however with my BC it is uncomfortable to use both...

What to do...what to do...?!!
 
fweber:
I just noticed you're in Mass and so may very well be diving a drysuit and steel tanks. In which case, you're probably more bouyant and should listen to someone more experienced in drysuit diving than me. I'm a warm water specialist although that may soon change.

No. I a new diver and am diving wet with 7mm and AL80's (got for free!)
 

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