Specific Definitions for Diving Conservatively and Not Pushing the Limits

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koyote1111

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Thought I'd toss this question out there and just see what responses I might receive.

Throughout my training, I have heard the many reminders about diving conservatively and not pushing the limits. However, I cannot remember ever being presented with many specific definitions or examples of what might be viewed as pushing the limits or a failure to dive conservatively.

One more obvious example would be that of, "Be sure that you have at least 500 psi when you end your dive". I guess that I'm a bit more curious about perspectives regarding repetitive days of diving, what is viewed as being conservative in terms of "riding the line" on your no stop dive limit, conservatism related to age, etc. Tables and computers don't ensure that one will have a safe diving experience.

Therefore...

I'm interested in hearing how others have come to define this concept and what "notions" we all may have created on our own...

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To me, "diving conservatively" is a term that encompasses much more than just adhering to NDLs and not running out of gas.

It begins before I even get in the water.
My buddies and I email back and forth about dive conditions. We take into consideration surf forecasts and high/low tides when agreeing to meet up.
Prior to loading my gear into the car, I ensure that my regs are working properly and my tanks are full.
For our typical shore dive, my buddies and I look at the water before we even unload gear from our cars. If the surf is up, we make non-diving plans.
If I'm not feeling right or my sinuses are a little stuffy, I don't dive.
The dive team agrees on a max depth and time parameters. We specify turn-pressure. We are all on the same page with regard to keeping an adequate gas reserve (rock bottom) at all times in case a buddy needs it.
We are well-practiced in air sharing and air-sharing ascents.
There is a standing emergency action plan in case one of us encounters any medical issues during the dive.
I set my computer for the appropriate conservatism factor and/or resolve to not allow my NDLs to run into the single digits. I use a Suunto computer, so I know that this is still a fairly conservative nitrogen-load plan (relative to other dive computers on the market).
When prepping our gear for a dive on a hot day, we try to find some shade (or bring our own) so that we don't overheat before getting into the water.
I do a set of comprehensive functional tests on my dive gear during pre-dive checks. I fix or replace any gear that is malfunctioning or looks like it's on the verge of breaking down.
Since we all dive in drysuits, we time our "zip-up" so that everyone is ready to go at the same time.
We conduct quick head-to-toe buddy checks before leaving our cars.
Once we arrive at the beach, we watch the water to see whether there is a need to time our entry with the surf.
I look for rip currents to help with getting out to the drop-in site. :)
The dive team enters/exits the surfzone together in case anyone needs help. (99.9% of the time we're all self-sufficient.)
We kick out to the drop-in point, taking care not to overexert ourselves at the surface. If we were fighting a current on the way out, generally we'll take a few minutes and rest prior to initial descent.
We descend slowly and together.
I check my SPG and dive computer frequently during the dive. I also check-in on my buddies every few seconds. Our safety supercedes any other dive goals or UW photography shots that we wanted to get.
We all have a good handle on each other's gas consumption rate.
I try to make the bottom phase of the dive as relaxing as possible. Our group tends to dive very slowly. Our run times are longer and we see more this way.
If someone is getting cold, reaches turn-pressure, or just wants to go back, we communicate the turn-around signal and begin to head back to shore. Following the ocean bottom contour back generally has us doing 7-10 minutes at safety stop depth.
I control my ascent rate so that it doesn't exceed 33 fpm.
If the surf is considerable, we take extra care by exiting close enough to help one another (in case someone gets rolled or just loses his/her balance).
Most dives I exit the water with 700-1000 psi left in my tank.
Afterward, we end up chatting about the dive and sharing photos before schlepping our gear around. Not only is this a fun, social thing but it prevents us from overexerting ourselves shortly after the dive.
After the dive, I take stock of how I'm "feeling" (overly tired, any aches/pains, itchy rashes, etc.) and I add that info to my divelog. This can be helpful info for planning future dives.

As I said at the beginning of this post, to me, "diving conservatively" means a lot more than just not violating NDLs or respecting gas supplies.

Don't know if this is what you had in mind when you started the thread...
 
Good responses. In general, I just try to ascend well before the NDL limit and watch my air (am compulsive on this). As a general rule 80 ft. or below and I want to ascend at least 5 mins. before NDL. At 80 ft. exactly, I tend to go out 10 minutes and turn the dive--shorter minutes for deeper. Nitrox obviously a factor here. But there are many factors, as stated above.
 
Thanks so much for your replies! I'm in hopes that many will respond with what they view as conservative diving and/or not pushing the limits. I posed the questions because I recently found myself with DCS and have gone over my dive logs numerous times to assess if I was diving conservatively.

My case was determined to be unexplained/undeserved, yet I have been wondering what others do or how they define conservative. While some areas of diving are presented as more black and white, I do think that others are left somewhat "gray".

Of course, I will be making several adjustments when I can resume diving. I thought it was especially interesting to see what you adhere to in terms of minutes prior to NDL. I suppose that is an area that I was hoping to hear about...how close do people "ride the line".

I am now certified as a Divemaster, so my knowledge base is fairly solid. However this incident has made me much more curious about what others are practicing.

If I do eventually become a teacher, I want to be very specific about what diving conservative does mean and give examples of dive profiles that could be problematic :)

Again...thanks so much!
 
Conservative will have different meaning depending on the dive and the divers. To me, it means, broadly, "taking precautions." I can easily accept that precautions may vary from diver to diver, from dive to dive, and from one locale to the next.

Bubbletrubble's extensive list is an excellent example, not just for the sorts of things he is conservative about, but because it demonstrates a mindset rather than a prescriptive "rule" that would define conservativeness. One thing that came to mind as I read his list was that I don't often do that sort of diving, so many of those things (e.g., watching the surf) are not part of my typical behavior, whereas others are; for example, I perform deep stops on square-profile deep dives, as a precaution, in addition to normal safety stops, even when these dives are within no-stop limits.
 
Bubbletrubble has an excellent list for doing adequate dive planning and being prepared for issues.

To me, diving conservatively has a very simple definition. If anything about the dive makes me sit up and take notice, the dive is not conservative. I don't always do conservative dives; I have enough experience now that it's often a constructive thing to do dives that push my limits. But, for example, I did a dive on a new site yesterday (not conservative) that was shallow (conservative) and done on a day of very small exchanges, so we would not run into much current (conservative). I did it with my husband, who is a well-known buddy (conservative). I did it in equipment I can manage in my sleep (conservative). The viz was good, for us (conservative). Navigation was simple (conservative).

In contrast, I did a dive during a recent Southern California trip, that was anything but. It was a site I had never done (not conservative) out in the middle of nowhere-near-land (not conservative). The top of the structure was deep, at 80 feet (not conservative) and there was ripping current (not at all conservative). Visibility was at best moderate, in the 20 foot range (not conservative) but I was diving with two well known and very solid buddies (conservative) off a boat that totally has my back (conservative). Bottom line: Pushing the edge of the envelope; appropriate for my level of experience and training, but not by anybody's yardstick a conservative dive.
 
What TSandM said. She pointed out that there are many variables and when those "not conservative" variables start to out weigh the "conservative" ones then I lose interest fast and stop having fun.

Shore diving in SoCal may not be conservative for a Key Largo boat diver not familiar with the local variables here. Honestly, I don't like to add any more than one new variable per dive. It's just not fun for me. I have low risk tolerance and I admit it.
 
I just make a conscious decision about every move I make; everything is thought out like when I ride my motorcycle through traffic.
 
In terms of NDLs you could plan your dives using a table and stick to those values. Or you could get a computer with either conservative algorithms or adjustable micro-bubble formation settings. It terms of gear being conservative could be carrying a pony on every dive (I consider a pony mandatory for my diving) or use larger tanks to facilitate a large reserve. You can do many things to be more safe, but you also are in a hostile environment and are only managing risk. There is nothing you can do save not enter the water to eliminate the chances of DCS or other diving injuries, but being reckless will only increase your chances.
In short, you must find your own balance between risk and reward.
 

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