Spare air or pony

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awap:
Spare air is better than no air. It can help you thru a CESA. A pony bottle totally eliminates the need to perform a CESA. You can make a normal, completely safe, ascent. If the pony does not interfere with your hunting and travel (luggage constrainst) is not an issue, the pony makes better sense.


What is the travel regs regarding pony bottles? We are taking a cruise (after flying to Puerto Rico) and ultimately diving in Bonaire and I wondered about bringing a pony as insurance. Does it have to be empty to satisfy regulations or what? I'm also assuming it has to be in the checked luggage?

Thanks
Greg
 
it all depends on how deep you're going, if you're spearfishing in shallow water, lets say 30 feet or so, and you only need help getting to the surface, then a spare air would be fine. My instructor teaches their use, and I had one that I won in an online draw. I used it in a local quarry with my cousin when he was checking out and setting up new gear, I easily stayed at 15 feet with him for 2 or 3 minutes, doing bubble checks and checking straps. Now that being said, I HAD one. I sold it because the vast majority of my diving is in Lake Erie, with the shallowest decent wreck being 70 feet deep, and I deemed it as useless at those depths, and I now dive doubles for redundancy, but used to carry my instructors 40cf pony when I was still in singles on those deeper dives. I think having totally redundant air source is a great idea, you just have to be realistic about the depth. Spare air claims 100 foot operating depth for their bigger unit, and it might let you bolt to the surface from there, but I would prefer the ability to make a controlled acent, or have ample redundant air to swim to my buddy and make a controlled acent together, with him as your backup now, and I dont consider a Spare air suitable at depths much beyond 30 feet.
 
Bullswan:
What is the travel regs regarding pony bottles? We are taking a cruise (after flying to Puerto Rico) and ultimately diving in Bonaire and I wondered about bringing a pony as insurance. Does it have to be empty to satisfy regulations or what? I'm also assuming it has to be in the checked luggage?

Thanks
Greg


Surely the same for a pony as a spare air - both are compressed gas cylinders.
 
Too bad I'm going diving... These spare air vs pony always turn good.

:popcorn:
 
Wonder if you can get one in black to appeal to the DIR crowd....
 
Bullswan:
What is the travel regs regarding pony bottles? We are taking a cruise (after flying to Puerto Rico) and ultimately diving in Bonaire and I wondered about bringing a pony as insurance. Does it have to be empty to satisfy regulations or what? I'm also assuming it has to be in the checked luggage?

Thanks
Greg

I believe regs allow either one to travel in checked baggage, empty with the valve/reg removed to allow tank inspection. My travel consern is the weight limitation. Although I own both spare air and pony, I usually fly with a good buddy and leave the redundant gas behind. If I need redundant gas, the pony gets the job. I've put my spare air fill adapter to work in a DIY equalizer hose and am working on a tank pressure checker. The spare air occasionally get dragged out as a pool toy. If you search the board for {tsa pony} you should find a link to the TSA regs.
 
Bullswan:
What is the travel regs regarding pony bottles? We are taking a cruise (after flying to Puerto Rico) and ultimately diving in Bonaire and I wondered about bringing a pony as insurance. Does it have to be empty to satisfy regulations or what? I'm also assuming it has to be in the checked luggage?

Thanks
Greg




The valve has to be out.
 
I'm going on a liveaboard trip to Saba and St. Kit's this spring. I understand that there will be a number of 100+ foot dives around Saba. Ideally, I would be doing them in doubles, but since they won't be available, I'm planning on taking along a 19cf pony to sling.
 
:rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :popcorn:

String:
Wonder if you can get one in black to appeal to the DIR crowd....
 
IMHO a Spare Air being used anywhere other than a paper weight or in a Bond movie is just asking for trouble.

Well, if you happen to have one, I say put it in your car (you drive off a bridge) or in your nightstand in case your house fills up with smoke. They must be good for something. I thought the Marines used them to get out of submerged helicopters?
 

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