Snuba air line filters?

[ofg-1]

I suggest contacting Brownies Third Lung in Ft Lauderdale. They have been making hookah systems for 40 plus years and should be able to answer your questions on hoses and filters.

 

[Waterwulf]

I suggest contacting Brownies Third Lung in Ft Lauderdale. They have been making hookah systems for 40 plus years and should be able to answer your questions on hoses and filters.

Thanks

 

[Waterwulf]

That's a bit unfair.
You forget that I went on to explain about a dozen considerations you need to make in order to make an informed choice decision and in order to do this went on further to each of the decisions needed.

1 The filter type
2. Its size
3. Its diameter
4. The filter component bed length
This will give you a rough idea of the Cv capacity factor Then:
5. Its type to establish Mean or average pore size
6. Its pore diameter to establish pressure drop

7. Flow using Dp to calculate flow capacity directly proportional to the square root of Dp
This may have developed into a conversation regarding lung compliance chest wall compliance and airway resistance due to your age 50+ (you stated your 50 years diving) with any morbid obesity considerations as my work used to incorporate converting the Oxford Penlon medical ventilators for medical Hyperbaric use as we manufacture diving and small hyperbaric chambers.

8. Then the filter type
9. Pleated: Bigger surface area
10. Cone: Better Dp pressure resistance across the filter wall
11. Element Type
12. Sintered: A porous metal matrix compacted into a metal shell blank end shell or tube
13. Dutch Mesh: A porous fine wire mesh in opposing directions to catch particulate dependent on mesh size.
14. Material with moisture and flood tolerance considerations

I then went on to say:

"Then maybe we could elaborate more on some of the considerations needed to make an informed choice". We could also have discussed a suitable non return valve for your underwater adventure especially the type of valve and the non return spring rates.

I'm sorry but If this above wasn't as you put it "conducive to a reasonable conversation".
I don't know how to help you further. Carry on with your internet search and catalogue knowledge from those importing cheap junk from China and take your information and advise off those rinky dink scuba Hooka clowns selling you this stuff.


I didn't. I did, I won't

Sure you did. The second time around. Now you're just getting insulting. You came charging in stating "No absolutely not. No inline filter" with no further explanations. That was the extend of your "explanation". Then you come back with cr@p like it'll get plugged up and restrict the airflow. Well gee sure it will because that's what it's supposed to do! Do you run a fuel filter in your car? How about an air filter? Why?


Thanks anyway but I don't take advice like that.

 

[Waterwulf]

You have this really weird paranoia about the nylon lining to the hose breaking down. Are you getting some super cheap non-scuba or a now recalled milflex hose?

Weird paranoia? Now that's some funny stuff right there! Do you carry a line cutter? How about an Octo? You must be paranoid!

No, I don't have some weird paranoia about the hose disintegrating. I just want to be safe. What is your problem with me wanting to use a filter?

 

[iain/hsm]

Now you're just getting insulting.

No really I am not. if I were to be insulting I would be clear and you you would know about it.

Then you come back with cr@p like it'll get plugged up and restrict the airflow. Well gee sure it will because that's what it's supposed to do!

Not really. I only suggested broad outlines in order we discuss the type of filter your proposing Its an interesting subject with a lot of detailed considerations you don't find asking the salesman who is trying to sell you the junk

Do you run a fuel filter in your car? How about an air filter? Why?

I run a Porsche. The garage handle those filter and servicing requirements. Why? pretty simple reason. Because they have the skill knowledge and experience to handle the workmanship requirements.

Thanks anyway but I don't take advice like that.

No problem your call.
Just remember you're the weak 70 year old "wobbly from an existing brain injury" with a damaged balance control centre such that you "tend to fall over". On top of which you "have a heart stent fitted" and a doctor who's medical advice you appear not to have fully understood or appreciated the ramifications of your condition. Hence my direction towards hyperbaric chambers for your consideration in a previous posting.

Frankly at your age coupled with your medical conditions and medical advise, in your position.
I would forget diving and get prepared to meet your creator.

 

[Waterwulf]

Just remember you're the weak 70 year old "wobbly from an existing brain injury" with a damaged balance control centre such that you "tend to fall over". On top of which you "have a heart stent fitted" and a doctor who's medical advice you appear not to have fully understood or appreciated the ramifications of your condition. Hence my direction towards hyperbaric chambers for your consideration in a previous posting.

Frankly at your age coupled with your medical conditions and medical advise, in your position.
I would forget diving and get prepared to meet your creator.

That's pretty standard for Richard Craniums like you. You get called on something and you attack, exaggerate, and misstate. Do you attack the handicapped in your country personally or just via keyboard? Yeah, I'll bet you're nothing but a keyboard warrior trolling the internet. Why? Get out and do life! There's more to it than sitting behind the keyboard looking for conversations to disrupt. Do it before it's to late and you end up a big fat ugly slob. Oh wait. Never mind.

 

[Waterwulf]

I did quite a bit of online research on Hookah/SNUBA air filters today and found some interesting stuff. There are lot's of Hookah systems being sold. About a third of them include some type of air filter besides the filter for the compressor air intake. About a quarter of them recommended some type of inline filter. Not one recommended against using one. The compressor types recommended the filter at the top of the hose and the tank types recommended the filter at the bottom end. I have no idea why that is. I'll be putting mine at the bottom end.

 

[iain/hsm]

Do it before it's to late and you end up a big fat ugly slob.

What..... and be like you!

 

[Waterwulf]

What..... and be like you!

Oh stop it already. You’re just PO’d because someone questioned your expertise by calling you out on a stupid statement.

Don’t use a filter because it may get plugged up and restrict the flow.

Well duh! lol That’s what a filter is supposed to do. That’s why you’re supposed to change them on a regular basis. Just own it and move on.

 

[Jonn]

What’s even the point of a tank supplied snuba system again? Why not ditch all that long hose and filter complexity and strap the tank right to your back, with some sort of harness?