simple lesson learned about communication

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I try to learn something from every dive. Tonight I got a good lesson in communication before the dive starts. I was with a guy that just got his AOW (I'm OW and at about 23 dives since I got my card in June) and we did a really basic dive plan.
Down on the boat buoy, mess around till we get bored then I was to lead a nav out to the Duc. We would stay there till we hit 500psi then surface and swim back.
I had done this nav. earlier this weekend with no problems at all with a different buddy. This time I missed it by a mile. I am convinced that I lost my heading by stopping to look for him several times during the dive. He was constantly about 5 feet behind me and slightly above so I had to pretty much turn completely around to see him. I'd wave him up but he didn't stay there long. When the dive was over I explained that I was used to having my buddy directly beside me so I only had to glance left or right and know right where they are. When I'm with my usual buddy it isn't unusual for me to find that my arm has slipped through her octo hose loop, we are that close. (We have done a lot of shared air drills breathing off of each others octo and just never really drift far apart.) He said he was used to diving in groups of three and had never gotten that close to his buddy, but he would try it on our next dive. He did great. I didn't have to do more than turn my head to see him the entire dive. Not as close as my usual buddy but I never expected that. He was always within arms length though. The three newly certified divers (a dad and two youngish sons) we were with was a different story. I was constantly having to count heads then go to the back of the group to find the last one. When we got out of the water after that dive I thanked my buddy for sticking close and he said he liked that better than what he was doing before. Lesson learned: If you expect a buddy to do something you need to let them know before the dive starts.
Well, that worked so well that I decided to do our night dive with the 3 divers from earlier. We would go as two buddy pairs and my partner from earlier was going to complete a foursome with a different group. I explained my preference for distance along with the usual dive plan stuff and recommended that the other two stick close like that as well. We decided to start out as a group but if we got split up to just stick to buddy pairs and follow the plan to the end. That was one of the absolute best dives I have had. We did get split up but it wasn't an issue due to the plan. The kid stayed right with me and when we got out of the water he said that he had a lot more fun and felt much more secure compaired to earlier because of always knowing where his buddy was. The father and other son said the same thing. They said they weren't a bit worried when we went 'missing' because they knew where we were going and that we were staying close.

Having done most of my dives with one person I never thought that the stuff that was second nature now to us would be an issue with someone else. I now have something new to add to my dive plans.

Joe
 
That is a good thing to think of before the dives. For me I have only logged my 4 checkout dives so far but even then I noticed that I felt more comfortable when either the instructor or someone else in the class was close. I will deffinatly tell all my future dive buddies that too.
 
Joe, I so applaud you for realizing so early on, the value of communication before a dive.

I have had 'issues' before, with assumptions..... I have to admit that after I got a few (!) dives under my belt some of the routine things such as who's diving where (positioning in relation to each other), and hand signals we expect to use, get sort of 'glossed over' or never even addressed. In one case it very nearly ended in disaster and I think I learned far more from that one dive than any I had done prior.

You're better than I was.......... I got up to dive #37 before I straightened myself out and started to pay attention to going over things with my buddy pre-dive.

Kudos!
 
Sideband:
I try to learn something from every dive. Tonight I got a good lesson in communication before the dive starts. I was with a guy that just got his AOW (I'm OW and at about 23 dives since I got my card in June) and we did a really basic dive plan.
Down on the boat buoy, mess around till we get bored then I was to lead a nav out to the Duc. We would stay there till we hit 500psi then surface and swim back.
I had done this nav. earlier this weekend with no problems at all with a different buddy. This time I missed it by a mile. I am convinced that I lost my heading by stopping to look for him several times during the dive. He was constantly about 5 feet behind me and slightly above so I had to pretty much turn completely around to see him. I'd wave him up but he didn't stay there long. When the dive was over I explained that I was used to having my buddy directly beside me so I only had to glance left or right and know right where they are. When I'm with my usual buddy it isn't unusual for me to find that my arm has slipped through her octo hose loop, we are that close. (We have done a lot of shared air drills breathing off of each others octo and just never really drift far apart.) He said he was used to diving in groups of three and had never gotten that close to his buddy, but he would try it on our next dive. He did great. I didn't have to do more than turn my head to see him the entire dive. Not as close as my usual buddy but I never expected that. He was always within arms length though. The three newly certified divers (a dad and two youngish sons) we were with was a different story. I was constantly having to count heads then go to the back of the group to find the last one. When we got out of the water after that dive I thanked my buddy for sticking close and he said he liked that better than what he was doing before. Lesson learned: If you expect a buddy to do something you need to let them know before the dive starts.
Well, that worked so well that I decided to do our night dive with the 3 divers from earlier. We would go as two buddy pairs and my partner from earlier was going to complete a foursome with a different group. I explained my preference for distance along with the usual dive plan stuff and recommended that the other two stick close like that as well. We decided to start out as a group but if we got split up to just stick to buddy pairs and follow the plan to the end. That was one of the absolute best dives I have had. We did get split up but it wasn't an issue due to the plan. The kid stayed right with me and when we got out of the water he said that he had a lot more fun and felt much more secure compaired to earlier because of always knowing where his buddy was. The father and other son said the same thing. They said they weren't a bit worried when we went 'missing' because they knew where we were going and that we were staying close.

Having done most of my dives with one person I never thought that the stuff that was second nature now to us would be an issue with someone else. I now have something new to add to my dive plans.

Joe




It's easy for my buddy and I, since we always go diving together. We don't go with different buddies. So it's really easy to communicate with my buddy underwater. If I can't go then he doesn't go and same with me.
 
PADI-SoCalDiver:
It's easy for my buddy and I, since we always go diving together. We don't go with different buddies. So it's really easy to communicate with my buddy underwater. If I can't go then he doesn't go and same with me.
Careful about that........ I had a "regular" buddy for a while and it was as if we could almost read each others' minds underwater. Unfortunately, if I had to dive with someone else for whatever reason, it got very easy to forget to review those things, and it can bite you back if you don't...........
 
FreeFloat:
Careful about that........ I had a "regular" buddy for a while and it was as if we could almost read each others' minds underwater. Unfortunately, if I had to dive with someone else for whatever reason, it got very easy to forget to review those things, and it can bite you back if you don't...........


Yes I know what you mean. We always talk before we go diving. We make sure we understand what we're going to be doing, on the dive. Also we go over any hand signs we may use, to make sure we know what we're telling each other.
 
My husband is my buddy. Our goal is to dive side by side like they did in the videos. But when we went diving he was seasick. I was lucky. The buddy I ended up with was a dm from Utah. He kept an eye on me.

I'll remember this the next time and go over it predive with whatever buddy I have.
 
The wonder of the dive slate..............helps to convey a message underwater.
 
ShakaZulu

is it me or did you change something about yourself?? Is it your hair??? lol
 

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