Silent-Submersion vs. Gavin

[lucid]

Its my understanding that the Gavin and SS have the exact same motor and rear end. The gavin has a larger relay (Couldn't a larger relay be put in a SS). The SS has an aluminum motor housing which I have heard helps with overheating. I am no electric engineer but wouldn't excessive motor heat lower burn time? The bulkheads in the SS and the entire battery carriage looks like its higher quality. Sucks that I would have to listen to all the stroke stuff if I go with a SS.

 

[lucid]

NM, I was just checking out dir quest and have decided that its not worth the farm animal jokes that will go along with owning a SS scooter

 

[WYDT]

lucid once bubbled...
Its my understanding that the Gavin and SS have the exact same motor and rear end. The gavin has a larger relay (Couldn't a larger relay be put in a SS). The SS has an aluminum motor housing which I have heard helps with overheating. I am no electric engineer but wouldn't excessive motor heat lower burn time? The bulkheads in the SS and the entire battery carriage looks like its higher quality. Sucks that I would have to listen to all the stroke stuff if I go with a SS.

Just some of my thoughts since I've dove both and own a Gavin....

The heat dissapation thing is BS. These motors are continuous duty dc motors that should not get hot at all. If they do something is wrong!

I have a Gavin and have driven an SS. I think my Gavin is a bit faster than the SS I drove but not a great deal. The Gavin is very well made and there's nothting "cheap" about it. I've never heard of anyone breaking the handle outside of an auto accident where the scooter was ejected from the car. In that case the handle and shroud were replaced and the scooter was ready to go.

I think the motorcycle style throttle on the SS is a bad idea. There's no way to lock it off. Sure you can turn the little plastic knob against it but if it were to twist on (the screw only uses friction to hold the handle) you would be in a world of shi+ as you'd now have a scooter locked ON. Also why would you want a "cruise control" feature on a scooter? I'd prefer my scooter to instantly turn off if I let off the trigger. Some say it's more comfortable to drive the SS but I can drive my Gavin with two fingers through small passages that twist and turn and the wkpp guys have driven them for 7+ hours at a time without problems.

DSAO!

Rob

 

[WYDT]

icediver once bubbled...
I've owned an SS for a year now. I have the short and long haul. I did my research on the net and it appeared that the SS was made of sturdier components. The handle was one of the biggest factors in my choice, when your doing 2 hour scooter dives the last thing you want is wrist fatigue.

I have spoken to Rodney from time to time. However it was not due to problems with the scooter as it seems to be bullit proof.

T

Wrist fatigue is not a problem. You shouldn't have to horse the scooter around and I can drive my Gavin with my index finger and thumb with my hand just laying on top of the handle.

WKPP divers dive these things a lot longer than 2hrs, if wrist fatigue were a factor they would have designed a better handle.

DSAO!

Rob

 

[MikeFerrara]

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DIR Tec Diver once bubbled...
I have 2 Gavin scooters. They are absolutely incredible. Yes they are expensive, but you get what you pay for. I know Trey (George Irvine), and he is not only probably the world's best diver, but he knows scooters better than anyone, and that is why the world's top divers always choose Gavin. You get complete unquestioning support, and you will always have the confidence in knowing that your equipment is the best in the world.

This is your life, don't settle for anything but the best!

 

[ericfine50]

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[lucid]

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[JamieZ]

I'd rather be called a farm animal then have a scooter I have to repair here and there. Just because its DIR or is used by the WKKK doesnt mean its a better product. The only reason why its used by the WKKK is because George wont let anyone use anything else. Its an easy way to keep selling Gavins.


Either one you buy Lucid you'll own a really nice new tool/toy. I have never gotten as much enjoyment in diving as I have on my scooter.

PS. If you havent gotten your finning techniques mastered yet wait on the scooter because if you dont you wont have the time when your flying around with a huge grin on your face.

I edited this post because its not worth argueing over. Good luck with your purchase.

 

[WreckWriter]

scubanarc once bubbled...
Its really to bad that Lucid is going to buy an inferior product just because its DIR approved.

Either one you buy Lucid you'll own a really nice new tool/toy. I have never gotten as much enjoyment in diving as I have on my scooter.

While I don't agree that the Gavin is inferior I do agree that Lucid should make his choice based on things other than what someone might say. Do the research, try the products, then choose based on that. Who cares what someone on a mailing list says?

There's plenty of divers in South Florida that use each type.

I also agree 100% that it will transform your diving and greatly increase the fun factor, whichever one you get.

WW

 

[JamieZ]

do agree that Lucid should make his choice based on things other than what someone might say. Do the research, try the products, then choose based on that. Who cares what someone on a mailing list says

How correct you are. It should be your choice from the research you've done which includes riding both and taking both of them apart to see which one is better built.