Just a few comments:
The continuing positions are.
Any limitations in OW is for training time only.
This is necessarily true because scuba INSTRUCTION agencies are only authorized to limit the rules for instruction done in their names. I have certifications from 5 agencies--which one gets to tell me the rules for my personal dives? One of those agencies says I can only dive air or nitrox to 100 feet maximum. Another says I can dive air/nitrox to 165 feet maximum. Which one gets to rule my life? During a given year, Wookie could potentially have divers with certifications from more than 100 agencies. Which one gets to set the rules for his boat?
There are no limits in recreational diving except 130 ft.
As I read Wookie's post on that matter, even that limit comes from his insurance, not a scuba agency. Other insurance companies may have other rules. The Small Hope Bay dive operation on Andros Island in the Bahamas regularly takes OW divers to 150 feet.
A mile into a cave is the same as swimming under an anchor chain.One side says no go and the other says no problem.
Some people do say that swimming under the anchor chain is the same as swimming a mile back into a cave, and they say no one should be allowed to do either. The ones who do not agree that they are the same thing do not say it is no problem to go a mile into a cave. They say the first one is OK for most divers, but the other requires special training.
Overhead environment is a definition issue and not a hard overhead restriction.
I have no idea what that means.
Im your buddy till something goes wrong and then you are on your own.
Never heard that one in this thread.
If you get hurt then too bad you are an adult and the operator has your wavier along with your George.
Never heard that one in this thread.
There are courses to cover the holes.What holes when there are no limits??
Because there are no LEGAL limits, courses exist to teach people how to make good decisions in lieu of those missing limits.
There are courses for extending skills and limits.( limits only apply to training sessions)???
Because there are no LEGAL limits, courses exist to teach people how to make good decisions in lieu of those missing limits
when they are diving outside of training.
It is a greater crime to not tip the crew than it is to dump a diver into water they are not prepared for.
Missed that one, too.
Any limitations if excepted is conditional on experience and you get experience by pushing the limits that only exist in training sessions..
Your original personal limits come from your initial training. You extend those limits over time by a combination of continuing education, diving with experienced friends, practice within your limits, and gradually extending those limits on your own.
Is there anything in the OW course that is a hard rule that should be obeyed beyond the traiing session? By example no depth limits,no overhead limits.No gas limits,
Do we ad to that list,,,,,, a buddy is only necessary in training sessions. An octo is a training equipment requiremenet only. You cant touch the coral but you can crawl into the belly of a wreck if you equip yourself with the right definitions. Definitions never got any one out of trouble, that's the purpose of skill sets. which again is only necessary during training sessions.
As explained above, there are no hard rules outside of training because no agency has the authority to set those rules. They can only provide the best education with the best advice they can and hope people make good decisions when they are on their own.