come on guys... I know you're out there... help the unfortunate sourceless many like myself and give us some information about our regs. Somebody has to have some information about service procedures, sources for service kits at a good price. I am looking into buying the tools to service my SP mk20/S600 and need some help like many other divers out there. This board is about sharing information to make us better, more knowledgeable divers and not about manufacturers 'secret societies'. We paid for our equipment, we should have the right to do whatever we want to with it.
Share some info guys...
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canuckdiver
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I agree, the info on teardown and rebuilds on this equipment should be available to the owners of the equipment! If we decide to service our own equipment, we should be given the coice to take that responsibility.
I own a genisis, and am having a hell of a time finding info about it!
I own a genisis, and am having a hell of a time finding info about it!
I am Mares Certified for all models, looking at bribing the LDS so I can update my SP course over summer to the S600.
SP and all other reg companies are very reluctant to allow servicing of Regs by unqualified people. They really dont want to be sued by your family when you stuff it up and drown.
I really doubt any Reg company is freely going to give out manuals and the tools required to strip down their Regs.
Plus you would have to source the service kits for the Regs and again I doubt SP is going to sell them to anyone except Dive Shops with a certified staff member.
If you are that keen to service them get in good with your LDS and they can sponser you to the the service technician course.
SP and all other reg companies are very reluctant to allow servicing of Regs by unqualified people. They really dont want to be sued by your family when you stuff it up and drown.
I really doubt any Reg company is freely going to give out manuals and the tools required to strip down their Regs.
Plus you would have to source the service kits for the Regs and again I doubt SP is going to sell them to anyone except Dive Shops with a certified staff member.
If you are that keen to service them get in good with your LDS and they can sponser you to the the service technician course.
thanks and i'm glad i'm not the only one that shares my thoughts... you can do anything to your car you want and buy any part you want from the dealer. I work on my brakes exclusively... i bought a repair manual and did it... saved some money and they actually work better because i have a vested interest in it just like i would my regulator. Of course, if i had of installed my brakes wrong, i could wreck and die right... but thats my choice to make. But ya know... i always test my brakes before I get out on the highway just in case... just like i'd do my regs. I plan on becoming an instructor and shop owner myself and you had better believe I'll do anything I can to help people out. If you take care of your customer and work hard, things will work out for you. The shops say there's too much liability. Well, give me a waiver form and i'll sign the damn thing!!
Sydney Diver,
First of all, i would be more than willing and happy to take the scubapro course and pay for all costs involved... scubapro does want to allow people to be qualified. If we are willing to get the training, we shouldn't have to work for a dealer or be dealer. It's that simple. Just because I don't have the 'connections' or a dealer buddy, doesn't mean i shouldn't be able to service equipment. We're not talking about working on a Lexus here (which Lexus will be glad to let you do and sell you the parts and manual on how to work on em). Anyone that takes the time and has the information provided to them to service a regulator can do it, assuming that you have any mechanical and spatial skills.
First of all, i would be more than willing and happy to take the scubapro course and pay for all costs involved... scubapro does want to allow people to be qualified. If we are willing to get the training, we shouldn't have to work for a dealer or be dealer. It's that simple. Just because I don't have the 'connections' or a dealer buddy, doesn't mean i shouldn't be able to service equipment. We're not talking about working on a Lexus here (which Lexus will be glad to let you do and sell you the parts and manual on how to work on em). Anyone that takes the time and has the information provided to them to service a regulator can do it, assuming that you have any mechanical and spatial skills.
another thing, companies like scubapro are making it more likely that people will improperly service their regulators and drown because they don't provide information that the consumer deserves. People are going to service their regulators whether or not the information is readily available. Don't you understand that we aren't hacks here? We want to develope a keen knowledge of our equipment so that we are assured of a regulator functioning to OUR OWN STANDARDS, not someone elses. No one's standards are higher than my own. It's a failed attempt to have a monopoly on servicing equipment, which as a direct result puts many "improperly trained" people at a higher risk of running into problems, not because of their stupidity, but because the manufacturers that they support by purchasing their products don't care enough to provide information.
Stone
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canuckdiver once bubbled...
I own a genisis, and am having a hell of a time finding info about it!
Which Genesis reg do you have?
norcaldiver
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jamiei, although i can se where you're comming from, i also see from this point. i run the help desk for my company and daily i get calls from people that "tried" to fix this, install that software that they downloaded, whatever. I am forever fixing peoples boneheaded attepts at doing something that is not thier job. Yeah, sometimes it works fine, but it usually doesn't.
Actually, I do agree, let the user sign a waiver and give them the parts. They could open a whole new shipping dept and make a killing if they would just sell to the gen public. AND the techs would make a killing because I think most people would end up with extra pieces But ya know what the next thread on this board would be, don't you?
"Brand X just out to make a buck! Sells service parts to anyone with a dollar in their hand! They don't care about safety or quality!"
Actually, I do agree, let the user sign a waiver and give them the parts. They could open a whole new shipping dept and make a killing if they would just sell to the gen public. AND the techs would make a killing because I think most people would end up with extra pieces But ya know what the next thread on this board would be, don't you?
"Brand X just out to make a buck! Sells service parts to anyone with a dollar in their hand! They don't care about safety or quality!"
you just don't get it... they shouldn't just offer the damn parts, they should sell service manuals for their regulators... People that are willing to pay for the tools, manuals, and parts to service their regs aren't gonna @$^$ them up!!! This is crazy... Anyone can go out and buy a gun... do you think you should have to be an employ of a gun shop to be able to purchase a gun? And do you really think that the most people you refer to are gonna be working on their regulators in the first place? Hell no... It's all BS. Most people don't even have their regulators serviced when they should because its costs so much. Give them the opportunity to educate themselves and they can do it themselves and be safer divers. Sounds like there's still a lot of divers out there that have the same ole' mentality... A service tech is still a human... not some regulator overhauling machine. They aren't graduates of Yale, so don't make them out to be genius' that are infinately more capable to service a regulator than anyone else.
and still my point is... boneheads will be boneheads, which i am not... should I not be able to work on my car or my computer, or build my own computer or build my own boat because someone else has been crushed under their car or fried their computer, or drowned because thier boat didn't float? And one last thing... if service techs were so highly trained, intelligent (non-boneheaded) people, why don't they go into a field that pays a little better? With the right tools, a service kit, and a friggin service manaul, i know that without a doubt I can service my equipment as well as, if not better than anyone else.
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