victorzamora
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I'm wondering what the exit signal referred to in the quoted NACD manual excerpt is. That's make a difference. Any buddy with a thumb in the air gets a personal escort to the benches. A wave off gets nary a thought
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I was certainly trained that any diver can call the dive at any time for any reason, and if it is a two person team, that will certainly end it for the team. I had never before read or heard it said that in a larger team, not only must all members end the dive, they must all return to the surface together.
If that is indeed the meaning of the rule, then all people doing the "wave offs" being described in this thread are violating it, and they are leaving themselves open to liability should anything happen to a departing teammate or teammates.
well I believe there was some discipline from the nacd on this case. Maybe this was the reason?
I was not NACD trained myself, so I had never seen that sentence before, and I had never heard that the "golden rule" of cave diving includes the concept that if one member of a group decides to end a dive, all members of the group must decide to end the dive immediately.
To me, though, there's a difference in "calling the dive" and waving buddies off.If a diver calls a dive the entire team aborts the dive, no questions asked!!!
This suggests that if on any dive with any group of dives of any ability level one of them waves off the others and ends the dive, this rule will be brought up in a subsequent lawsuit if anything bad happens, as it was in this case.
To me, though, there's a difference in "calling the dive" and waving buddies off.
It's even easier: no tag-a-longs allowed. That's what many instructors are resorting to. It's a shame as I like shadowing training dives.In diving, it's a little easier to commit to making the ridiculously conservative risk-averse decision as a matter of course, because the only costs involved are your lost dive, possibly lost entry fee, and possibly third teammate's annoyance.