service of 1st and 2nd stage + tools needed?

[dutchmandiving]

Hello,

i've been reading the threads and i want to make the step to self service my regulators.
how is the best way too start?
i know i need to buy some tools for the next regulators and 1st stages

scubapro:
MK25 evo
D420
S620ti

scubaforce:
black devil SM
black devil reg

i would need as far as i know:

- specialised tools for the scubapro
- reg toolset standard for scubaforce
- i have small ultra sonic cleaner.
- lp hose manometer (i have)
- service manuals (i have some trough searching the threads)

i allso have a question about how to set crackling i've seen different tools. but do they do the same?

i found a slotted adjustment tool and a megnehelic meter do they do the same and if not where is the adjustment tool used for?

kind regards

 

[steinbil]

I think the best way would be to hope that @rsingler organizes another EU version of his online reg tech training. Highly recommended!

Some special tools might be needed, but there are also many workarounds depending on the regulator. You can set cracking effort with a bowl of water or buy an expensive magnehelic setup.

 

[scrane]

Regulator Savvy (Spiral Bound)

Regulator Savvy is a different kind of regulator repair manual. For many years, I have believed that professional regulator service could be better served by teaching the fundamental functions of the regulator, rather than relying solely upon a procedural approach. This book translates this idea...

www.scubatools.com

 

[chrisch]

The best way to start is with a proper training course and/or reading one of the publications that cover the subject (as per post #3 scrane)

Both of these will likley answer all your questions. This thread will probably soon become a battle of very different opinions that will not help you very much.

 

[Mobulai]

I’ll also recommend the @rsingler class, it did me wonders when I took it last year
Technique and the reason you do a process is far mor important/dictate the choices/alternative for tools
Do reach out to him and get on the list

Now here are some things you will need regardless, besides standard tools/sizes

scubapro:
MK25 evo

And all other SP 1st stages need:
4.5, 5.5mm alankeys wrenches, long ones
You’ll need these for the DIN adapter

A piston bullet and a bushing tool for mk20/25 are really helpful but not “absolutely needed”, I say they’re worth it

You’ll need C clamps that fit SP 1sts, they are part of the “universal service tool” from Scubapro and alternatives elsewhere

For all SP seconds, you need the spline nut tool, it’s part of the Scubapro tool already

D420: special animal, not sure if it’s like a d400, if yea, you’ll need a spoon… I’ll leve that for others to comment on

Scubaforce:
Not sure, probably all the special parts you’ll need is the C-clamp with the right pin size
Haven’t used/serviced one yet

Rsingler will recommend you get some wooden dowels of various sizes, thwy certainly help with pushing things that you don’t wanna scratch

 

[dutchmandiving]

Hello,

Thanks for all the reply's how can i sign up for one of the classes? And are they giving trough like an online meeting? Because i live in the netherlands.

Where can i find a manual for the scubapro s620ti and d420 the rest of the manuals i have.

I will buy an universal regulator tool kit and some special tools needed for the scubapro's

I allso bought a regulator book vance harlow.

 

[Bigbella]

Regulator Savvy (Spiral Bound)

Regulator Savvy is a different kind of regulator repair manual. For many years, I have believed that professional regulator service could be better served by teaching the fundamental functions of the regulator, rather than relying solely upon a procedural approach. This book translates this idea...

www.scubatools.com

While I do like Wolfinger's Regulator Savvy, in terms of theory and function with its poncey illustrations, it lacks the broader appeal of Harlow's SCUBA Regulator Maintenance and Repair; nor does it address the peculiarities of particular brands -- of which, there are a few.

Scholarly discussions on case geometry fault are well and good; but I had always favored Harlow’s far more grassroots and specific techniques, from cobbling together your own tools from dowels, etc; sourcing parts; instructions on environmental sealing of first stages; testing cracking pressures in a washbasin; equipment troubleshooting -- to even building your own IP gauge, from local hardware store stock, which far more closely matched my meager budget, at the time.

While Harlow has been out of print for a number of years, a PDF edition had floated around SB; and a brief search should find a copy . . .