Scubapro VS Zeagle.

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Does Zeagle offer free parts also, for life?

Yes they do.

The question is is it has good as SP warranty for life?? I'm still working on regs under warranty that are 20 years old. Can that go back that far in there parts?? SP can and do. They have the best warranty out there. This is just my 2 cents.

Congratulations. Don't get me wrong, I like scubapro, and the Mk17-G250V would be high on my list if I couldn't get Zeagles. Just because Zeagle has only been building their own regs for 10 years, doesn't mean their quality is lower than scubapro, or that their parts are any more likely to dry up in the future. By your logic Aqualung is the only logical choice, since they have been around longer.

All of Zeagle's diaphragm regs use the exact same service kit, over those 10 years, and the last time I spoke to the engineer at Zeagle, he made it pretty clear that he was intending it to stay that way. While they may have only been building their own regs for 10 years, they have been building scuba gear for 30, and seem to be going pretty strong.

Jim
 
Zeagle, I have 2 DS-V, each with probably 400 dives on them and I love them. I am not recommending that you service them yourself, but the important point is that a good service tech and produce excellent results nearly every time. not to mention they strongly support their dealers and service techs, too many shops that I have seen will not even work with SP any more because they made it too difficult for the shop to get their "free" parts
 
Very satisfied Zeagle Flathead VI user. For what it's worth, my LDS sells both brands. Owner dives Scubapro, but often recommends Zeagle as a better value for the money.
 
I have never used Zeagle but I do own the Scubapro MK17/G250V and it is a great setup. The MK17 is a great coldwater reg. I dive in th northeast and have dove in water in the mid 40's with no problem.
 
A few thoughts:

Zeagle allows dealers to sell parts openly, but that is not the same as saying all dealers will do so. What happens if you do not live near a Zeagle dealer - either the dealer dops Zeagle or you move somewhere with no Zeagle dealer?

In contrast, on just about any given day, and certainly within any 1 to 2 week period of time, you can find new scubapro parts kits on e-bay for any Scubapro reg. I can;t rememebr the last time I saw a Zeagle kit. So if you want to talk about 'real world get them anywhere parts availablity' the conversation starts and ends with Scubapro.

The Mk 17 G270V is an exceptional reg, and as noted above, Scubapro has a history of supporting their regs for decades. For example, a Mk 5 R109 from the late 1960s can still be serviced by Scubapro. Also, that same reg can be upgraded to the much later balanced configuration and then uses the same S-wing poppet as the latest scubapro balanced regulators and offers nearly identical performance. Not bad for a 40+ year old reg.

Scubapro routinely makes improvements in newer designs retrofittable into older ones. The Mk 16 is a good example as they are automatically updated to the improved Mk 17 seat and seat carrier at annual service - at no additional cost to the customer.

A couple months ago I had a customer with a Mk 15 with a problem with the first stage body and that part is no longer made. But Scubapro replaced that 20 year old reg with a new Mk 25 at no cost. Most companies won't support the annual service of a reg that old, let alone provide free replacement under warranty.

Buying American sounds good, but it is largely meaningless in todays economy. Consider this:

About 50% of the profits on wall street come from foreign companies and foreign business. What that means is that those interests are in opposition to the concept of American jobs. If you change foreign trade policies and tax incentives to increase "American" jobs, you decrease profits on wall street and for many, if not most, "American" companies.

Also, there is a big difference between where the parts are made and where the reg is assembled and the situation is not much different than American workers assembling a Toyota at a plant in the US. That particular Toyota is no more "American" made than a Ford or Chevy assembled overseas with parts made in the US, or assembled in the US with parts from overseas suppliers. I'd argue what is important is not the low wages paid to the assembly workers but rather where the company profits are ultuimately going and which coutry ultimately benefits - which takes you back to the whole wall street foreign profit issue.

So in effect, you can't just increase American jobs to bring about an economic recovery, and it's not the number of American jobs that count as much as the quality of those jobs, the revenue that is generated and where that revenue ends up. The reality is that the US has moved into a post industrial age and manufacturing jobs are going to continue to move to second world contries with low labor costs (think of the labor situation in the US in the late 1800's and early 1900s). The US is faced with a need to greatly improve education so that American workers can stay in the forefront in terms of engineering, science and management in order to lead, direct or add value to the now second world manufacturing industries.

We are in effect gettig our ass kicked on the global stage by "No Child Left Behind" type initiatives that set a low bar to bring everyone "up" to a mediocre level of performance at the expense of all the people with potential to perform well above that low bar of achievement. We are alos getting our hats handed to us as a result of economic polices that promote the use of money just to make more money, rather than to actually stimulate the economy - a major issue before, during and after the recent bank bailouts.

Buy "American made' if it makes you feel good, but don't kid yourself about what it really means in a much larger global economy.
 
Time out, everybody go to your corner and take a break. From what I have been reading, the regs perform closely to each other and both offer free parts during service. This has, in my mind, come down to a Ford VS Chevy debate. Where I dive Scubapro is used by most everyone, however I tend to buck the trends and look elsewhere. So I have had really good luck with my Zeagle bc so I think I am going with the Zeagle reg. I'll spend a few more dollars at my LDS but I prefer it that way, it's hard to get air on line. OK DING carry on.
 
I have narrowed it down to either a Zeagle ZX DS-V or a Scubapro MK 17. I dive kinda cold, 40 to 50 saltwater. Anybody got any comments?

I have the Zeaglereg, and have not looked at anything else! That thing breaths like fine wine' It gives you the same easy brreathing at 20 feet like it does at 130 feet. Cold water it is sealed, so you have nothing to worry about. That is just MOI. :cool2: The customer service with zeagle is also very good.
 
I have narrowed it down to either a Zeagle ZX DS-V or a Scubapro MK 17. I dive kinda cold, 40 to 50 saltwater. Anybody got any comments?

I was in the same spot as you last year, so I drove past my LDS to a shop that sold both Zeagle and Scubapro. I talked with the owner about the kind of diving I do and said I was considering the FH VI or the MK 17/G250V. The owner said that based on what I told him, I should go with the ZX DS-V; it was more than enough reg for me and I didn't need to spend the extra $$$ on the other regs. He said that he'd be glad to sell me the FH or Scubapro regs, but I'd be spending money that could be spent better on something else. That kind of honesty doesn't come along too often.

In the end however, my LDS picked up the Zeagle line and the owner made me a deal I couldn't refuse on a FH 7.
 
I was in the same spot as you last year, so I drove past my LDS to a shop that sold both Zeagle and Scubapro. I talked with the owner about the kind of diving I do and said I was considering the FH VI or the MK 17/G250V. The owner said that based on what I told him, I should go with the ZX DS-V; it was more than enough reg for me and I didn't need to spend the extra $$$ on the other regs. He said that he'd be glad to sell me the FH or Scubapro regs, but I'd be spending money that could be spent better on something else. That kind of honesty doesn't come along too often.

In the end however, my LDS picked up the Zeagle line and the owner made me a deal I couldn't refuse on a FH 7.

Great Reg, does your have the Miflex hose on it?
 
In contrast, on just about any given day, and certainly within any 1 to 2 week period of time, you can find new scubapro parts kits on e-bay for any Scubapro reg. I can;t rememebr the last time I saw a Zeagle kit. So if you want to talk about 'real world get them anywhere parts availablity' the conversation starts and ends with Scubapro.

You can get Zeagle kits (both regular and O2) as well as other parts like Diaphragms on zeagleexpress or scubatoys any time.

I should also mention exceptional Zeagles customer support, I was sending a message to Scott with questions at night and was receiving the answer next afternoon
 
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