Scuba diver dies while exploring popular shipwreck, a third tragedy in the Florida Keys

[SlugLife]

Not if the diver was inside the wreck at 150 ft.

Single tanks being what, 80 cu ft AL?

150 ft, 80 AL, on air, no bailout, buddy diving with same configuration,

What could go wrong!!

What ever happened to the rule that OW divers do not dive below 60 ft.

OW and wreck penetration are a recipe for disaster.

Someone has to be responsible for this.

Rose.

The first person responsible for a diver's safety is themselves.

To my knowledge, (I may have missed something) we don't have many details to establish the diver went to 150ft or whether they were deep in the wreck, etc. There's just speculation that an easy way for someone to have died is to go single-tank and attempt to penetrate the wreck. We don't yet have any information that someone else encouraged the diver to do something unsafe.

 

[rob.mwpropane]

Someone has to be responsible for this.

I know people have hounded you already for this statement but I'd like to understand how you came to this conclusion? I'm not trying to speak ill about the deceased, but I can't see how it could possibly be anyone else's fault?

Honest question, no offense meant by it at all.

 

[TravelGas]

Sounds like the only way to really find out is if someone here knows someone at Horizon Divers who will tell what they really found.

 

[Manatee Diver]

Sounds like the only way to really find out is if someone here knows someone at Horizon Divers who will tell what they really found.

They already lost their butts in the Stewart matter, they are probably going to STFU.

 

[kaylee_ann]

The first person responsible for a diver's safety is themselves.

To my knowledge, (I may have missed something) we don't have many details to establish the diver went to 150ft or whether they were deep in the wreck, etc. There's just speculation that an easy way for someone to have died is to go single-tank and attempt to penetrate the wreck. We don't yet have any information that someone else encouraged the diver to do something unsafe.

(this is my opinion based purely on a hypothetical situation)

and honestly, to bounce off your first/last points, it ultimately doesn't matter what someone is trying to get the diver to do. it's still their responsibility to say no when they're fully aware it's not okay. sure, there could be peer pressure, but that doesn't mean someone has to give in.
just my two cents that no one asked for LOL.

 

[boulderjohn]

I want to reinforce the point that we don't know much at all in this case, and too many people are jumping to worst case scenarios. In diving, the single most common cause of death--by far--is a cardiac event. The Spiegel Grove has very nice and accessible swim throughs in places. He could have entered one of those and suffered sudden cardiac death. We just don't know.

 

[TravelGas]

They already lost their butts in the Stewart matter, they are probably going to STFU.

Sounds like that lawsuit was settled then? I looked it up and can't find anything more recent than 2020 and it was ongoing at last update, before vanishing.

 

[Manatee Diver]

Sounds like that lawsuit was settled then? I looked it up and can't find anything more recent than 2020 and it was ongoing at last update, before vanishing.

I heard it was settled. But I actually looked it up, it is still ongoing, and pretty active.

Regardless even if they win, they've probably lost tens of thousands in legal fees.

 

[formernuke]

I did it twice using a steel 100. It doesn't like me.

On one we had massive current starting at around 40, the other another diver knocked a weight pocket and snorkel off.

Lots of cool wildlife on the top both times.

May be one day I'll take the revo and the entire thing as with a single tank the wreck even staying at the top is hard to see all of it.

 

[rx7diver]

... May be one day I'll take the revo and the entire thing as with a single tank the wreck even staying at the top is hard to see all of it.

People mentioned up-thread that depth to the sand is ~130 fsw. This suggests (to me) an air/nitrox dive. So, if someone wanted to do a longish BT, wouldn't it be simpler to dive doubles (Al 80's if diving wet), possibly with an Al 40 deco cylinder, rather than dive a rebreather? After all, he/she wouldn't be concerned with He costs, and he wouldn't want to incur a very long deco obligation in open water.

rx7diver