SCUBA attacks

[MSilvia]

Originally posted by sharpenu
I am not looking for specifics, as I don't want this thread to be a blueprint for some whacko, but I was taught that terrorists look for the soft target. The technical difficulties of these attacks would seem to exclude SCUBA as being the soft target.

Until 9 months ago, conventional wisdom also held that terrorist suicide bombers required constant attention to prevent them from freaking out and aborting the mission, and therefore needn't be considered a threat domestically. What you were taught about terrorists isn't necessarily hard fact.

Part of what makes terrorism effective is it's unpredictability.

 

[kodiak]

I think that all this talk about terrorists and the FBI is an old subject and the only thing that we seam to solve in here is nothing. The only thing we do with these discussions in these forums is get our friends upset with each other.

 

[danceswithoctopus]

I realize this is a volatile subject, kodiak. But I hope that we are all grown up enough to understand that reasonable minds can disagree. I don't mean to upset anyone. I have my views. They are correct. If someone disagrees with my views they may also be correct. It is through dialogue that we learn and alter our viewpoints.

I welcome disagreement, even argument. But please don't ever take anything I say as an attack on your worth as a human being or the validity of your views. I understand that we will not all agree on everything. But I hope that we can agree to disagree and still conduct the conversation in a civil manner.

 

[cmay]

here, here dances

 

[chris_b]

Originally posted by wannabe
...drink the purple kool-aid and get in line with what our executive branch of government wants.

Are you sure it's just purple kool-aid? I heard it's got one part Jack Daniels, two parts purple Kool-Aid, and a jigger of formaldehyde from the jar with Hitler's brain in it we got in the back storeroom.

Or am I the only one for whom this comment brought back memories of such classics as We've Got a Bigger Problem Now, Holiday in Cambodia, Nazi Punks *ahem* Off, and others?

 

[sharpenu]

Try reading this:

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2066831

 

[tchil01]

Originally posted by sharpenu
Try reading this:

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2066831

I bet he's the same guy that said September 10th about how it would be impossible to hijack 4 planes simultaneously… and he probably, like most people at the time, didn’t worry too much about a hijacking, because they figured that the hijackers would just demand a ransom…. Or fly the plane to their homeland and be heroes on the evening news….

Ty

 

[danceswithoctopus]

Originally posted by tchil01


I bet he's the same guy . . .

Do you? I bet it would be easy to support that assumption with facts. Why don't you try searching Slate's archive and see if you're right? Then you can say, "Hey, he's the same guy . . . see? Here on this web site . . . . And you'll sound a lot less reactionary and a lot more credible.

Or were you just being facetious? If so, you might watch where you point your words. Might I suggest: 'that's the same sort of attitude' rather than 'I bet he's the same guy'?

 

[tchil01]

Originally posted by danceswithoctopus
Do you? I bet it would be easy to support that assumption with facts. Why don't you try searching Slate's archive and see if you're right? Then you can say, "Hey, he's the same guy . . . see? Here on this web site . . . . And you'll sound a lot less reactionary and a lot more credible.

Or were you just being facetious? If so, you might watch where you point your words. Might I suggest: 'that's the same sort of attitude' rather than 'I bet he's the same guy'?

Sorry if the tone was a bit off in my post but this is a bit of a sensitive subject. I was in NYC on September 11th... Right across the street from One World Trade Center. I heard the first plane hit in from my office and watched the fireball erupt from the buildings lobby. BTW, I had just walked through that lobby 15 minutes before the plane hit...

I also watched as people jumped to their death because they were trapped. I had to run up Battery Park as the first building fell. I huddled behind a high school with hundreds of terrified kids as the second building fell and hit our building. And I, along with thousands of other stood there and cried because I had seen the firemen and police who were rushing into that building to save people.. and we knew they were dead.

I lost friends in that attack. Our Company lost six employees. My Girlfriend's new job is replacing a man who died in the attack. And it burns me up that people take this so lightly... That people who have nothing better to do then ***** and moan write articles belittling people who are simply trying to figure out ways to stop these kinds of things from ever happening again...

OK, with all of that being said. I do apologize if my tone wasn't quite proper in my last post.

Ty

 

[Scotty]

Flying a plane into the towers is not a soft target. Do you realize that it would be easier to train in scuba and to do the things associated with this than it would be to fly a jet. Do you realize how hard it is to fly a jet. Almost anyone can become good enough at scuba but it's not the same with flying a jet. Having a secure nation comes with a cost. Sometimes the cost is not what you want but I'd rather be secure than someone dead with freedom. Actually we are free when we are secure.