Scuba accident analysis

[Asweptwing]

Although I subscribe to Undercurrent and Rodale's as well as D.A.N. I feel underinformed when it comes to scuba accidents and analysis. Since I also have an interest in the aviation community I find a huge difference in the way accidents are handled between the two endeavors. In aviation accidents the circumstances and analysis are widely distributed and publicized in trade publications for the benefit of all (in hopes that it will better prepare the rest of us if we find ourselves in that predicament). I find only obscure references to diving accidents. Seldom are the facts presented so there is little discussion on the techniques and procedures to avoid injury.

Am I looking in the wrong places or is there something about diving that inhibits post accident discussion and analysis?

 

[rmediver2002]

You can find very in depth information on commercial diving accidents that were investigated by OSHA or Coast Guard, the recreational diving industry is for the most part self regulated leaving most diving accidents unreported and uninvestigated.

The university of RI was keeping some records on file, you may be able to get some information from them.

I am in complete agreement with you that we could all learn something from these incidents if given the resource...

Jeff Lane

 

[divegary]

My dive buddy died while diving overseas, his family did not want it to be discussed. They found it hurtful and as it would not return him to the living, asked those that knew any of the details to not discuss it. All the people that knew him, found the misinformation and his name being plastered on the different boards very hard to take. We fit well and were getting better, it was great to dive with someone on the same page. He lives still, as he is remembered.

 

[wreckchick]

It would be nice to have more details about diving accidents and I've learned a lot from what people have posted here and the deconstruction of the accident after the fact. The problem is that when self-reporting, people don't like to offer facts that are not complementary and often some key details are overlooked or underemphasized.

That and the way some people here will crucify someone brave enough to post about an incident could potentially keep many near misses from being reported where we could read about them. This would be a great resource for accident review if everyone could be level-headed and productive about the discussion. I like to think that people are fussing out of worry and concern, but that's often not how it comes across.

Rachel

 

[Diversauras]

I think that Rachel is right in both her comments though the second really only applies to this forum. Another difference between the data from aviation accidents vs. diving accidents is that usually there is more than one person in a cockpit to debrief afterwards and then there are the data and voice recorders to contend with.

 

[rmediver2002]

That and the way some people here will crucify someone brave enough to post about an incident could potentially keep many near misses from being reported where we could read about them

You are so right about this, botht that we are going to tend to limit the information given and that no matter what information is given it will no doubt be attacked by the "experts"

This is a difficult subject to address but to an extent opening the results to a "peer" analysis could be a great benefit...

Jeff Lane

 

[Uncle Pug]

biscuit7 once bubbled...
the way some people here will crucify someone brave enough to post about an incident could potentially keep many near misses from being reported where we could read about them.

Rachel,
Crucifixion for bravery is not something that happens on Scuba Board afaik. However rebuke for unrepentant stupidity is often the case... as it should be imo.

Often the folks presenting partial *facts* surrounding an incident are not looking for solutions but rather sympathy or affirmation.

It isn't surprising that such folks get a touch of the flame now and then.

As for the premise of this thread I do agree... we lack the factual reporting , in depth investigation and critical analysis of incidents that seems to be the norm for the aviation community.

But then we don't have a Federal Scuba Administration either... thankfully.

 

[RICHinNC]

ASWEPTWING..... do you have a hard time getting a flying buddy ever??

 

[Lead_carrier]

biscuit7 once bubbled...

... the way some people here will crucify someone brave enough to post about an incident could potentially keep many near misses from being reported where we could read about them. This would be a great resource for accident review if everyone could be level-headed and productive about the discussion.
Rachel

Unfortunately, so many of us do get out of hand when reading and posting about any type of accident. We all seem to know how it happened, why it happened and how it could have been prevented. We can all learn so much from accidents and near misses if we wouldn't feel like we would get crucified for posting them. I have made my fair share of dumb mistakes and errors and will gladly discuss them face to face with anyone that is actually concerned about what happened and wants to learn from my mistake. Will I ever post an incident on here, whether I was involved or not, to be crucified by one of the self annointed Scuba Gods? Only if I felt it would have a direct on a divers immeadiate safety. I feel bad enough about some of the things I do without getting outside help.

 

[double125's]

Has anyone checked out rodales section, I believe it is called lessons for life. There are quite a few accidents listed there and I thought they did a good job of setting the stage, describing the accident, what the resaults were and what happened during the lawsuit. Then they breakdown the mistakes and how to avoid them. I personally have learned a lot from them.They can be accessed online so you can veiw all the ones from past issues.