Salvo Rebel vs. Havoc: What's the difference?

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BarryNL

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I'm looking on the Salvo website but can't actually work out the difference between the two Salvo brands, Rebel and Havoc. Does anyone know? Which is suitable as a DIR lamp (or are both)?
 
I think the Havoc is the remote ballast light, and the Rebel has the ballast on the light head. Both are suitable for DIR diving.
 
I think the Havoc is the remote ballast light, and the Rebel has the ballast on the light head. Both are suitable for DIR diving.

Thanks, is there any particular advantage to having the ballast on one place of the other. I guess having on the head makes the head more bulky...
 
I'm looking on the Salvo website but can't actually work out the difference between the two Salvo brands, Rebel and Havoc. Does anyone know? Which is suitable as a DIR lamp (or are both)?

Confusingly, Rebel is a range of LED handheld and canister lights AND a range of "conventional" (i.e. main ballast in lighthead) HID canister lights...

Havoc is a range of HID "remote ballast" canister lights (with the main ballast in the canister with the ignitor in a small housing at the head).

THe LED looks very promising but there have been reports of problems with the lighthead. Imho, stick with HID for now.
 
Thanks, is there any particular advantage to having the ballast on one place of the other. I guess having on the head makes the head more bulky...

I flooded my can light. It's a Havoc. I lost the battery. That was all. All of the other electronics were fine. Had I nicked the cord and flooded the electronics, it would not have affected the battery. The systems are isolated from one another. In older systems a flood might well have ruined everything.

This is precisely why I chose the Havoc.
 
Perrone that doesn't make any sense why you would lose the battery but not the ballast. If the ballast is inside the canister lid, an the lid is sealed from the battery, and the cord is connected to the lid...it would make sense to me that you would lose the ballast but not the battery. Am I overthinking this?
 
Am I overthinking this?

Yes, you are. One of the latches on the can failed to close fully or came loose during the dive. Can flooded. The lid and ballast are sealed. So only the battery flooded.
 
Yes, you are. One of the latches on the can failed to close fully or came loose during the dive. Can flooded. The lid and ballast are sealed. So only the battery flooded.

I'm kind of surprised by that. I've often thought that the latch style lids look a bit vulnerable (compared to things like the screw in Greenforce lights, for example). But I've been told that it's not a problem because once you're underwater water pressure will keep the thing sealed even if the latches come open.

I guess that may not be the case...
 
I'm kind of surprised by that. I've often thought that the latch style lids look a bit vulnerable (compared to things like the screw in Greenforce lights, for example). But I've been told that it's not a problem because once you're underwater water pressure will keep the thing sealed even if the latches come open.

I guess that may not be the case...

I don't know what the heck I did. I've never had a problem before and haven't had one since, so I chalk it up to moron user error...

-P
 
Yes, you are. One of the latches on the can failed to close fully or came loose during the dive. Can flooded. The lid and ballast are sealed. So only the battery flooded.

Whoops...I read this:

Had I nicked the cord and flooded the electronics, it would not have affected the battery.

...and read it as "I nicked the cord", hence why I was really confused about how you could flood the cord and have it magically bypass the ballast and kill the battery. Please smack me. :rolleyes:
 

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