Result of discharging a firearm underwater?

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The Russian Navy developed a 4 barrel underwater pistol for their special forces. It is the SSPP_1 (Spetcialnyj Podvodnyj Pistolet). It fires a special cartridge, 4.5 x 40 R caliber using drag stabilized projectiles. Range is said to be up to 20 meters.
 
The real use of a gun that can fire under water isnt as much the effect of fiering at anything but point blank under water, but the fact that you can shoot it immediately after pulling it out of it.
Supercavitating rounds might change it a bit of course.

I wouldnt try to fire anything but fmjs under water though - bullets expanding in your barrel is a bitch..
 
The shell will travel at most 3 feet, usually far less.

You mean the BULLET will travel ---------------------the empty Shell will get ejected from an AUTOMATIC or stays in the cylinder if a REVOLVERr is used.
 
Could a person use a SS Taraus Judge loaded with 45 FMJ brass to dispatch Lion Fish? At close range of course....
 
In the late 60's the Russians developed an underwater pistol called the SPP-1. It shot a 4.5 mm dia. projectile that was115 mm long. A cavitator on the nose of the projectile actually blew a hole ( supercavitationin) the water when fired and the cavity collapsed on the tail for hydrodynamic stabilization. It was said to have a range of 15 to 21 (60 ft.) meters. Look it up.
While you at at it, look up a 200 mile an hour rocket propelled torpedo called the Skeval.
 
Do a Youtube search. Lots of idiots have tried it, and it does work! You need to treat the primer and bullet seating with clear nail polish, as wet gunpowder is useless. They also sell powerbeads/bangsticks:

Catalog of Bangsticks

Far more reliable when you need to dispatch a shark or a gator
 
Getting solid firing pin impacts on the primer is not a problem with striker fired weapons, as the increase in drag on the system in water as opposed to air is minimal. Some hammer fired weapons can be problematic as you have the drag of the water on the hammer itself before it even impacts the firing pin. That is then complicated by the harder cups on mil-spec primers that are intended to reduce accidental discharges due to potential slam fires from inertial firing pins under high cyclic rates of fire.

The powder used in cartridges contains its own oxidizer, so it's a closed system that will function just fine underwater or in a vacuum. Sealing the primer to case head interface and the bullet to case neck interface is not a bad idea, but it's also not necessary over the short term as even normal non-specially prepared ammunition is snug fitting enough to be waterproof over the time span required. Sealing cartridges is done mostly to improve reliability over the long term in anticipation of cartridges being stored under far less than perfect storage conditions. However, on non-roll crimped large caliber pistol rounds where neck tension may be minimal, a sealer can help bond the bullet to the case and/or create a lip of sorts to prevent set back and resulting leakage due to water pressure at depth.

As noted above, you need to fire the weapon with the barrel fully flooded, or fully drained. Firing the bullet in an air space in the barrel with the bullet then impacting a slug of water in the barrel is bad news. At best it will ring the barrel, and at worst the barrel will fail, so it's important to fully flood the barrel when entering the water. Similarly, it is important to fully drain the barrel when exiting the water. Long barrels in small calibers with a tight seal of the cartridge and/or bolt in/to the chamber can be problematic as they can retain water in the barrel in much the same way you can retain water in a drinking straw by placing your finger over the hole at the top.

A few weapons designed for use in and around water are designed so that water will drain from the barrel on exit, and those that are not need to have the bolt manually retracted enough to allow the barrel to drain. In that regard a weapon that fires from an open bolt seems ideal, but the downside is that the whole bolt has to move forward to fire the weapon and that reduces the bolt speed and the impact of the fixed or inertial firing pin on the primer, so it's a mixed bag. In any automatic or semi automatic, you may need to adjust the recoil spring forces to ensure adequate bolt speed to fully cycle the weapon, and you need to ensure that there is not some form of hydraulic buffering occurring behind the bolt.

As an aside, if you want to have fun with hydraulics and have a friend who shoots an AR-15 - put a couple ounces of grease in the bottom of the buffer tube assembly. You want enough not to be noticed when the action manually cycled, but enough that when he fires it, he'll be on the receiving end of a .223 powered grease gun (provided it has a buffer tube retaining screw with the drain hole in it).
 
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