I may not have been clear enough. My thought was some one giving me an aow card and wanting to do a night dive is different than someone giving me an Ow card and wanting to do the same. The aow probably did nav and reduced vis dives as adventure/experience dives as part of the AOW course. The OW has no dives except for how not to inhale water through the reg. I have no reservations with an OW with a night/reduced vis course completion card.
Requirement to do night dives
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I may not have been clear enough. My thought was some one giving me an aow card and wanting to do a night dive is different than someone giving me an Ow card and wanting to do the same. The aow probably did nav and reduced vis dives as adventure/experience dives as part of the AOW course. The OW has no dives except for how not to inhale water through the reg. I have no reservations with an OW with a night/reduced vis course completion card.
Padi ow of 20 years ago is not the same as it is today. You cant say that based on your abilities as you completed OW 20+ years ago is the same as the abilities of someone today. It is tremendoulsy watered down. I would say that complaring 20+ ago to today..... ow is much more different in the results than aow is. Just opinion, but its mine. If I look at my OW course of the 60-70's the OW was the only course and it was what todays OW, AOW, Master diver PIPELINE is today. Assumptions whether valid or not dictates that if you have a AOW card you raise less flags than some one with a new OW card. I know that they teach it back to back,, but just the same,,, the senior card raises fewer eyebrows when it comes to the more challenging dives. The AOW assumes that you have been below 60' you have some compass ability, your tendency to panic is mush more controlled, you don't ride the bicycle at 80 ft. Those expectations are not there when you know just how basic current OW training is.
Hi my name is jim bob and im from colorado and got my OW card last week and thought it would be neet to take a cruise and to check out a wreck on an ocean night dive to 80 ft in a current. Im going to get a lot of first's for my log book of 7 dives to date. I have not one but 2 spiderman flashlights, one for me and the other for my buddy over there that got his OW the same time. he has the compass and the computer and we just cant wait to get wet. If asked to buddy with them i would decline and I don't have professional considerations to deal with.
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Dive ops have a hard enough time making a go of it. Those that choose to unnecessarily refuse service to a paying customer or treat their customers badly need to enjoy the consequences. There are plenty of good ops that divers can patronize.
Reduced visibility is not a requirement of AOW. It might happen, but then again it might happen on an OW dive as well. The OW course has 4 dives, and they include navigation.
I was certified by PADI 20 years ago. No requirements have been taken from the course since since then. A number have been added.
Well, barely. Using a compass on a straight-line surface swim is pretty minimal.
LOL. He said it was a very different course 20 years ago, and then used his personal example of some 50 years ago (mid-60's) to buttress his point.
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In my part of the world, it has six. National requirements.
Yeah....but it troubles me that most seem to have no learning/retention associated with this, otherwise they could easily repeat it during the AOW Nav dive....sometimes just a few days later.
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