Gavin - Last I heard it was an $815 credit..
SS - $750
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SS - $750
First off, it wouldn't surprise me if it did.
Second... the concern isn't that it is going to be a problem -- my concern would be in other potential inaccuracies. The spec page is normally put together by engineers -- if they didn't get their conversion right there, what's to say that they designed the seals right? You might just end up shorting the battery... KABOOM!
cornfed
Mindless lemming
Oh for crying out loud...
OP
You guys are funny!
Jonnyreb
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I have used/tested both units.. (well, the SeaDoo SeaScooter Died the second weekend)..
1st, Claims of depth.. SeaScooter (they bought the right to use the name SeaDoo) was 35 ft.. then 80 then then 65. I actually emailed Sharper Image to get them to commit to a depth before I bought one.. Everywhere I looked was different. (Just as much difficulty deciding on a name it seems.. I have seen the same unit called 4 different names..) I even saw it in Australia called AquaSub which is the name of the 1st generation technology 24 volt predecessor to the Tyger Ray, which was too heavy so it is being redesigned.
We got 1 SeaScooter, 2 Tyger Rays and hit the beach. Everybody tried them while snorkeling. Adults and kids.
The next day we went to play on the river in freshwater (this is where the SeaScooter died and was never resurrected...) I never got to try the SeaScooter in a "gear" dive, just snorkeling. But I saw them at the DEMA show in Vegas with gear on and they were kicking in the pool to move. (not a good sign..)
The SeaScooter was VERY manuverable and light. It turns on a dime. If you are a little kid it would be a BLAST in a pool or for snorkeling. But for an adult or with SCUBA gear, it IS A JOKE! The unit is made of thin plastic and an ultra wimpy motor with plastic gears. It has unsealed circuitry etc.. (I ripped it apart.) So much for taking it back to Sharper Image for a refund... I could not get all the gears back together right! It sounds lke rocks in a blender (but this noise is reduced when in the water greatly.) The switch system is nice and the it looks really cool...
The Tyger Ray litterally ran circles around the SeaScooter.. (We had races...) It is quite a bit heavier but not unreasonable for the added power. Besides, the Tyger Ray is built much better out of a MUCH thicker body material and has all sealed circuitry.
We took 2 Tyger Ray units diving last weekend in Ft. Lauderdale (shore dive in only 20 feet max.) HAD A BLAST!!!! It is not something I would take down every dive becuase I like the excercise of kicking. But for a fun change, it was great. We left the units stock (did not add weight) so at only 20' they still were slightly positive and wanted to ascend a little when we stopped for long periods of time. When we took them to Key Largo in 40 feet they did not do this. This actually worked to our advantage since the batteries only last about 50 minutes when pulling an 190lb guy with full scuba gear. Since our dives in Lauderdale are typically 100 minutes you can either grab the front and ride with it while kicking which was not much effort, or do like we did and send it to the surface. I tied the handle to the dive flag rope and toted them along.
HOWEVER... Next time, I am going to ride it while snorkeling out to the 3rd reef (a long way) tie it to the flag and kick dive, saving the battery for the ride back..This will save us a long boring kick to and from the good spots and make life that much sweeter
It is great for boat dives too.
We rode alongside a huge turtle and he was not scared. It does not scare fish at all, infact, it seems to attract them because of the draft made by the unit. Fish will ride on the top of the unit so close you can bite them.
:sharky:
What I do not like about the Tyger Ray..
1. The Magnetic glove.. A safety feature but wish there was a switch instead.. You get used to it though. No biggy..
2. If there were strong currents it would be a little slow. It was perfect for good conditions. It is NOT built for speed. It was just slightly faster than my buddies who were kicking.. In fact, that was annoying for the 2 riders to wait for the 2 kickers all the time.. But with current it would slow it down quite a bit.. BUT, when you kick and ride, you can haul A$$!
It is not a $2500 DPV and therefore does not have the features of a $2500 DPV.. But it is a lot of fun and a great tool for snorkelers and rec. divers. Besides, we can outfit our entire group for the price of one high end unit and have just as much fun.
FYI- (NOT A GREAT SURFACE ONLY UNIT) it is made to dive underwater... The whole unit has to be underwater or it will cavitate (suck air from the surface into the prop.)
I would have to retest them in cold water, high current conditions to be able to recommend them for everyone, but for here, we love them. (I dont dive cold / high current waters anyway..)
You can find them at: Hammacher Schlemmer, Front Gate, Bass Pro, Overtons etc..
Here is a pic of the motor comparison.
The end recap.. The Marketing, pool toy and cool looks award goes to SeaScooter, but for a few bucks more, the Tyger Ray is for real.
1st, Claims of depth.. SeaScooter (they bought the right to use the name SeaDoo) was 35 ft.. then 80 then then 65. I actually emailed Sharper Image to get them to commit to a depth before I bought one.. Everywhere I looked was different. (Just as much difficulty deciding on a name it seems.. I have seen the same unit called 4 different names..) I even saw it in Australia called AquaSub which is the name of the 1st generation technology 24 volt predecessor to the Tyger Ray, which was too heavy so it is being redesigned.
We got 1 SeaScooter, 2 Tyger Rays and hit the beach. Everybody tried them while snorkeling. Adults and kids.
The next day we went to play on the river in freshwater (this is where the SeaScooter died and was never resurrected...) I never got to try the SeaScooter in a "gear" dive, just snorkeling. But I saw them at the DEMA show in Vegas with gear on and they were kicking in the pool to move. (not a good sign..)
The SeaScooter was VERY manuverable and light. It turns on a dime. If you are a little kid it would be a BLAST in a pool or for snorkeling. But for an adult or with SCUBA gear, it IS A JOKE! The unit is made of thin plastic and an ultra wimpy motor with plastic gears. It has unsealed circuitry etc.. (I ripped it apart.) So much for taking it back to Sharper Image for a refund... I could not get all the gears back together right! It sounds lke rocks in a blender (but this noise is reduced when in the water greatly.) The switch system is nice and the it looks really cool...
The Tyger Ray litterally ran circles around the SeaScooter.. (We had races...) It is quite a bit heavier but not unreasonable for the added power. Besides, the Tyger Ray is built much better out of a MUCH thicker body material and has all sealed circuitry.
We took 2 Tyger Ray units diving last weekend in Ft. Lauderdale (shore dive in only 20 feet max.) HAD A BLAST!!!! It is not something I would take down every dive becuase I like the excercise of kicking. But for a fun change, it was great. We left the units stock (did not add weight) so at only 20' they still were slightly positive and wanted to ascend a little when we stopped for long periods of time. When we took them to Key Largo in 40 feet they did not do this. This actually worked to our advantage since the batteries only last about 50 minutes when pulling an 190lb guy with full scuba gear. Since our dives in Lauderdale are typically 100 minutes you can either grab the front and ride with it while kicking which was not much effort, or do like we did and send it to the surface. I tied the handle to the dive flag rope and toted them along.
HOWEVER... Next time, I am going to ride it while snorkeling out to the 3rd reef (a long way) tie it to the flag and kick dive, saving the battery for the ride back..This will save us a long boring kick to and from the good spots and make life that much sweeter
It is great for boat dives too.We rode alongside a huge turtle and he was not scared. It does not scare fish at all, infact, it seems to attract them because of the draft made by the unit. Fish will ride on the top of the unit so close you can bite them.
:sharky:
What I do not like about the Tyger Ray..
1. The Magnetic glove.. A safety feature but wish there was a switch instead.. You get used to it though. No biggy..
2. If there were strong currents it would be a little slow. It was perfect for good conditions. It is NOT built for speed. It was just slightly faster than my buddies who were kicking.. In fact, that was annoying for the 2 riders to wait for the 2 kickers all the time.. But with current it would slow it down quite a bit.. BUT, when you kick and ride, you can haul A$$!
It is not a $2500 DPV and therefore does not have the features of a $2500 DPV.. But it is a lot of fun and a great tool for snorkelers and rec. divers. Besides, we can outfit our entire group for the price of one high end unit and have just as much fun.
FYI- (NOT A GREAT SURFACE ONLY UNIT) it is made to dive underwater... The whole unit has to be underwater or it will cavitate (suck air from the surface into the prop.)
I would have to retest them in cold water, high current conditions to be able to recommend them for everyone, but for here, we love them. (I dont dive cold / high current waters anyway..)
You can find them at: Hammacher Schlemmer, Front Gate, Bass Pro, Overtons etc..
Here is a pic of the motor comparison.
The end recap.. The Marketing, pool toy and cool looks award goes to SeaScooter, but for a few bucks more, the Tyger Ray is for real.
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