Question About Rebuilding A W31

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hello I currently own a airetex w31 that was made in 2007 before they beefed it up. the compressor went down and i need to rebuild it. im also thinking about getting a airetex 45 to replace the w31. heres my question do you guys think it will be worth rebuilding or just buying new? also it wont be used for scuba it will be used for paintball. it will be used to fill 3 bulk tanks.


another thing is i would like to know how the airetex 45 is. how many hours have you put on it and have you had any issues with it. i only got about 100 hours on the w31 before the piston shattered.


thanks for your time.
 
I have almost 750 hours on my W31. Did you buy yours used? Why only 100 hrs in 9 years?
 
we bought it used in 2012. when we got the compressor it had 35 hours on the gas engine and 10 on the electric. right before it died the electric had 69 hours on it. we also had a fly wheel issue that we took care of by adding washers to it. i dont know if i want to rebuild it due to cost of shipping the unit and im not that confident in doing it my self. thats why im trying to see if anyone has a airetex 45 and can tell me if its good or bad. man its hard to find any reviews on these compressors. also rjack 750 hours on your w31 man with all the searching ive been doing yours seems to be the longest lasting w31 ive read about.
 
we bought it used in 2012. man its hard to find any reviews on these compressors.

I guess you missed the one I did September 2010 and the one in 2008
Here it is the 2010 again for reference:


What short memories we have. We all discussed this in 2008 since then Airtex have discontinued the model it is no longer on there current website. This I understand was due to reliability problems, one being no one has managed to get over 400 hours without major beyond economical failures at around 250 hours. I spoke with Bruce at Airtex at DEMA he was telling us that also the guarantee was not backed up by the manufacturer so he had to repair/replace at his own expense. I believe on some he gave a 75% exchange on a different model.

My major “beef” has been on there design of using a low pressure crankcase and LP crankshaft for a HP applications.
This is never a good idea only a cheap one.

But the real problem on the Alkin design is that the crankshaft is “overhung” that is it only goes half way into the block. So all three (3) pistons together with the total shaft load and all of the rod loads are supported only at one end (the drive end with two bearings).
The only plus side, is using a design from an original low pressure design is it allows for a cheaper product.
The crankshaft and block does not require a second oil seal or design in an oil flow over the 2nd end bearing . For light equal loads on a single stage LP compressor with two pistons of the same diameter this is OK. (Cheap but OK)

On the down side however on HP designs is that the increase in rod load on the single primary bearing (On Alkin located as a pair at the back drive end) on the compressor is much greater having them at one end only than if the pair of bearings were separated and supported the shaft at each end.
With a crankshaft design using two bearings, most design the loads to be shared equally. The Alkin design puts the loads (in excess of critical load IMHO) on a single bearing nearest the shaft, but in design proberbly thought that the two bearings together (at one end) would share the loads equally (they were wrong)

Unless each bearing can handle the load individually when one bearing fails the other has no option but to fail as well, in fact this time even quicker due to the point load to balance distance increasing when the 1st bearing failed.
Alkin is a company that have simply copied other engineering designs without doing the engineering groundwork or basic calculations of rod load.

This is always the problem, same with China and all those cheap back street solutions when one company "copy's" other companies design work, You copy the good design but you also copy the bad design, trouble is Alkin simply dont know the difference.
Well it's all IMHO but the Honda engine is OK

Below is other references to this product. Iain Middlebrook

The Deco Stop (The Deco Stop)

The Deco Stop (The Deco Stop)

The Deco Stop (The Deco Stop)

New Airetex Atlantic or used RIX SA-6G? - ScubaBoard (New Airetex Atlantic or used RIX SA-6G?)

iain/hsm
 
The worst part is that the dang things won't even make a bad anchor, let alone a good one. It always falls back to, "You get what you pay for."
 
we decided that were not spending the time and money to rebuild the compressor. im still waiting to find a review of the 45 they sell.
 

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