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I just got my aow last weekend, I am thinking that I got my aow a little to soon, since I only have about 20 dives. All my dives were without incident and I felt great. Any opinions.
If you have a buddy and a comfortable place to dive ... go dive. PADI AOW is just a few more supervised dives and I don't see that it adds much. On the other hand if additional diving experience is for you to come by (and it doesn't seem to be) then AOW may be the only way to progress.
What would you consider an actual advanced diver?
50 to 100 dives and being able to meet the learning objectives of (PADI) PPD, rescue, EAN, and Divemaster (less the crowd control stuff and PADI bumph). If you have access to other agencies training, the answer is quite different. GUE: Fundies, UTD: Essentials, or Advanced Diver from, say, LA County can speed you development a lot.
 
What would you consider an actual advanced diver?

I would say an advanced diver is one that has enough experience to get themselves (and their buddies) out of most minor problems and wise enough to avoid the things that would put themselves (and their buddies) in real trouble.
 
I would say an advanced diver is one that has enough experience to get themselves (and their buddies) out of most minor problems and wise enough to avoid the things that would put themselves (and their buddies) in real trouble.

Well said Dave.
 
I would say an advanced diver is one that has enough experience to get themselves (and their buddies) out of most minor problems and wise enough to avoid the things that would put themselves (and their buddies) in real trouble.

I like the sound of this.
Don't forget :
You learn to dive by diving, so get out there and dive!!!
 
Well done getting AOW. My advice to you now is to go diving and enjoy the sport. if you can, dive at least some of the time with an experienced buddy. After another 20-30 dives think about Rescue (or equivalent) which I still think is one of the best and most important courses.
 
To paraphrase an old saw about aviation:

"A good diver will use his superior skills to extricate himself from dangerous situations; a great diver will use his superior judgement to avoid the dangerous situations altogether."
 
What would you consider an actual advanced diver?

I would say an advanced diver is one that has enough experience to get themselves (and their buddies) out of most minor problems and wise enough to avoid the things that would put themselves (and their buddies) in real trouble.

+1 for what he said.

In terms of actual training levels, I feel that OW is "Elementary" level, AOW is "Lower Intermediate" level, Rescue is "Upper Intermediate" level, and Master Scuba Diver is the lowest "Advanced" diver level. Having said that, it's not the certs/cards that make a diver "advanced," but instead the experience one gains by putting what was learned during the courses to work while diving, diving, diving until those skills are ingrained and become second nature.
 
Here's the way I see the skill levels:

Novice: Diving knowledge is minimal and solely 'textbook.' It does not connect decisions with actions and it ignores the context in which the action will be taken. The available suite of skills rigidly adhere to learned rules, other responses are not readily available. The possible use of knowledge for planning is without situational awareness and lacks discretionary judgment. The diver has available only rational decision making tools, nothing is intuitive or holistic. Individual actions are seen, and taken, in isolation with no conception of, or capability to deal with, complexity. Performance is unlikely to be satisfactory unless closely supervised.

Beginner: The diver has developed a working knowledge of key aspects of tasks and appreciates that complex diving situations exist. Since situational awareness is limited, all attributes, aspects and elements tend to be treated separately and given nearly equal importance. Though the diver begins to use the global characteristics of situations that are recognized from limited prior experience, problems are primarily solved by using rote guidelines for action that are based on situational attributes. The diver is starting to make rudimentary attempts to decide on appropriate actions in context, but is limited to applying actions as a series of learned predefined steps, and thus can not be expected to successfully resolve complex situations. Though supervision is needed for the accomplishment of the overall task, straightforward tasks likely to be completed to an acceptable standard and the beginner is able to achieve some steps using his or her own judgment.

Competent: The diver now has a good working knowledge of diving, as well as some background knowledge of diving, and as a result can deal with knowledge in context. Recognition of relevance is now present. Actions are seen, at least partly, in terms of longer-term goals. The diver is able to cope with simple, multiple, simultaneous, and competing inputs. The diver sees actions (at least partially) in terms of longer-term goals. The diver performs best with standardized and routine procedures, but is able to achieve many tasks using his or her own judgment, and can also engage in conscious and deliberate planning. Skills are fit for the purpose intended, though they may lack refinement.

Proficient (Advanced): The diver posses a depth of understanding of the disciplines that make up diving, as well as those specific to diving. At this level the the diver is able to make a holistic assessment in context, rather than just an analytic one. The diver can deal with complex situations holistically, and decision-making is more confident. Performing to a fully acceptable standard is routine; as is seeing what is most important in a situation. Deviations from the normal pattern are quickly perceived. Decision-making is less labored. Though maxims may still be used for guidance, but there is an understanding that conclusions will (and should) vary according to the situation. The diver sees the overall 'picture' and how individual actions fit within it. The diver is able to take full responsibility for his or her own work (and that of others where and when applicable).

Expert: The diver is fully capable of making correct decisions on an intuitive basis. He or she no longer needs to rely on rules, guidelines or maxims, possessing an authoritative knowledge of the disciplines that make up diving that leads to a deep tacit understanding of, as well as a holistic and intuitive grasp of situations. In complex circumstances, the diver moves seamlessly between intuitive and analytical approaches, using analytic approaches solely in completely novel situations or when problems occur. The diver simultaneously sees the overall 'picture' and grasps alternative approaches. The diver is comfortable taking responsibility for going beyond existing standards and creating original interpretations using a vision of what is possible. Excellence is achieved with relative ease.
 
I think if your ready enough to take on AOW then it shows you are confident. Its also a good way to take a first deep dive under supervision just to see how well you will do with it.

Congratulations on the cert too :D
 
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