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I was wondering does any one push the pressure on there tanks.I am looking for tanks to set up as doubles .the issue seems to be the weight faber95's are the perfect,but i feel I need pst e-119 (120 cubic) as I tend to use a lot of air ,the pst at 41lbs are I feel a little to heavy.I was told that a 95 with 3500 psi would give 105 cubic is that true.does over pressureing the tank kill it ?after 5 years of service.what tanks are best for trimex?
thanks for any advice.
 
Geez here we go again. There is already a long thread on this look around a bit you have enough posts to be able to find it on your own.
 
s7595, you've been on here a while now it seems, longer than me, you know how the search works - even looking in new posts you will find the overfilling LP tanks and another thread currently out there about HP vs LP, that contains a bunch of links to a whole myriad of other threads (i know i posted those links) that will give you more info than you know what to do with. I hate telling people to do a search, so here are those two threads: HP vs LP and Overfilling Lp 85/95's - arent i nice to you :wink:

WRT your questions:
1) I was wondering does any one push the pressure on there tanks.
- Yes
2) I am looking for tanks to set up as doubles .the issue seems to be the weight faber95's are the perfect,but i feel I need pst e-119 (120 cubic) as I tend to use a lot of air ,the pst at 41lbs are I feel a little to heavy.
- Have you tried out these tanks, they are a little stubby on we taller divers particularly as doubles? The E8-119's are "almost" exactly the same as the old LP95's by PST when pumped to the same pressure, of course one is "officially" rated for it the other isnt.
4) I was told that a 95 with 3500 psi would give 105 cubic is that true.
- No, they give you more than 105cuft. If 2400psi=95cuft, 3500psi=138cuft, although that does seem rather large to me, so i am wondering if my math is screwed up 95*3500/2400 - assuming they are 95cuft not 98 etc.
5) does over pressureing the tank kill it after 5 years of service?
- Not going to get into that one, read the other threads, some say yes, some say no. 5 years is time for the first hydro, some LDS's wont fill them beyond the 10% overfill (ie a "cave fill") after that, from what i hear.
6) what tanks are best for trimex?
- No idea, the guy i bought my HP-120's from used to use them for trimix, so i guess they are ok for it, i have also seen trimix in LP104's, so i assume you can use HP or LP tanks, but i really dont know much about that. There is a myth about using HP tanks with nitrox that is unfounded, but people still keep on with it, wondering if trimix arguements might be like that!
 
OneBrightGator:
FYI... 95 cu. ft. @ 2640psi
Yeh i dont deal in LP, but i might have even mentioned it elsewhere that the rated pressure is at the 10% overfill not at the basic rated pressure - shows how much i can recall in my own head some times - thanks for the correction :wink:

So 2640psi=95 (or 98 depending), 3500psi=125cuft or at 3442psi=124cuft (so not quite the same as the E8-119, but close, maybe they changed the internal volume slightly - thickened walls?)
 
Who knows... my jacked 104s got me 82 minutes in Ginnie last night, that's good enough for me.
 
Before you " cave fill " those tanks you might want to change the burst disc to somthing that can stand the pressure

On a side note; I once got a tank at ginnie ( scubapro 98 with H valve ) that was filled to 3800+ psi. my dive buddy had double 98s filled to 2400. we hit thirds about the same time.
 
novadiver:
Before you " cave fill " those tanks you might want to change the burst disc to somthing that can stand the pressure

On a side note; I once got a tank at ginnie ( scubapro 98 with H valve ) that was filled to 3800+ psi. my dive buddy had double 98s filled to 2400. we hit thirds about the same time.

The variable in this equation is SAC rate.
 
I always overfill my hp 120s to 3800. Even got a fill once in Canada to 4100. Not intentionally though. Good thing it was cold in the trunk that night. So far tanks have held up well. Would never do it with an aluminum tank though.
 
thanks for the info slim .
always a good place to start is scuba board
 
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