PST LP120's

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nielsent

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Just curious if there is much of a demand for these monster tanks.

Thanks all

-- nielsent
 
Pressed steel? Those are some heavy tanks! I dive with Faber lp120's, my buddy has some PST lp 120's. I can handle my set, but his set is noticiably heavier. Great in the water, not so much fun on land. They are good tanks though and there are lots of people who would appreciate the advantage they give. As single tanks, they are probably manageable on land for more people.
 
I would think they are in demand. Many times they are turned into portable banks for rebreather divers, or set them up behind your machine on the boat w/o a manifold and just top off your diluent or O2 tanks.

I think that is much better than tons of little Fabers and AL19s rolling around and stashed everywhere. No rental fees etc. versus a T-bottle sitting in your garage and you can dive them if you cowboy up or get into a good weight program pre-season.

They are good for doing little jobs and tasks in shallow water where you need to get negative to get some purchase with a tool or yank on something.

I'll trade you for my HP-130's or HP-100's that is for sure!
 
In this thread: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/tanks-valves-bands/291876-what-they-worth.html and others there is a discussion of the PST tanks' DOT "exemption" being scheduled to expire May 2011 making them illegal to fill and transport in the US. In this thread it is argued also that the "expiring exemption" applies only to HP PST tanks and not to LP tanks. I don't know where the truth lies. I just thought that I'd raise the issue so that some competent person can comment.
 
The exemption only applies to high pressure exemption series tanks (E7-120, E8-130 etc.) LP tanks are regular old run of the mill DOT 3AA series which has been around for over 100 years.
 
This is a paraphrase and I am not a competent person (that's too high a hurdle), but I think it will come down to the "reality" of the situation versus the rules going forward. I have held a DOT number.

DOT mishmash applies to people engaged in commerce, using vehicles over 11,000# GVWR if my memory serves me right and perhaps going over state lines or more than 150miles or some combination. The DOT rules can be very hazy if you've ever looked at their crazy rule book.

Transporting hazardous materials while conducting business, which I believe includes compressed air, O2 or most anything compressed means you need tanks, trucks and drivers that comply with all the rules. You could not use them in business that includes heavy trucks. Which would probably mean a commercial dive operation with some big trucks that had a DOT number would be out of luck.

For us it should not apply to transporting them.

Getting fills would be dependent on the shop. If you have a hydro with 5 years I would imagine that you would get a fill. The question is, down the road, would a hydro test operation risk putting themselves in some weird position by passing an out of compliance tank and then having it wind up in commercial service. If you can keep getting them hydro'ed I imagine that you'd find plenty of willing dive shops to fill them going forward.

There are plenty of people who fill out of hydro steel tanks, there are not as many people who will fill an aluminium tank out of hydro. It is always handy to know someone with a compressor.

-matt
 
Getting fills would be dependent on the shop. If you have a hydro with 5 years I would imagine that you would get a fill. The question is, down the road, would a hydro test operation risk putting themselves in some weird position by passing an out of compliance tank and then having it wind up in commercial service. If you can keep getting them hydro'ed I imagine that you'd find plenty of willing dive shops to fill them going forward.

That's really the only issue.
 
That's really the only issue.

You are on target.

It seems that reading the standards would suggest that hydro facilities testing our tanks are using DOT standards. Could they use some OSHA standard vs DOT to protect dive store employees? Somebody has to be a tester and pipe up.

I've wrestled with the DOT plenty and transporting expired tanks in your personal vehicle should not be an issue in the same fashion that you don't need to show a state trooper a log or have an annual physical like a driver of a commercial vehicle.

-matt
 
I wonder if testing facilities would stamp them for 2400psi service and call it a day if it's sticky for them?
 
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