Problem with Dive Rite Transpac II

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I've been away from diving for a while, so I took a refresher yesterday BEFORE an ocean dive in ~3 weeks. I had a steel 80 (tried it w/o added wt & w/ 6 lbs added to BC wt pockets) on my Transpac II; EVERY TIME that I went under, the BC rode up on my & tried to "turtle" me! I don't ever remember having this problem with my DUI wings & wonder if a crotch strap would fix the problem?
I plan on going over the BCD after it dries to try to tighten the fit around the waist; I adjusted it in the water and got it pretty tight, but it still rode-up.
Any ideas??? Thanks in advance!
 
remember that harness style rigs have a completely different adjustment mechanism than jackets. Making things "tight" will only make the problem worse.

You 100% NEED a crotch strap. That's just a fact. Get one, make one. doesn't matter, just get one.

Once you get one, you need to fit it properly.
Watch these videos, and you'll be good to go. These are on the new transpac, but the old one is the same

Fit a crotch strap
[video=youtube;CO5Kfyc81jA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO5Kfyc81jA&index=3&list=PL65F862433A0406C B[/video]

Adjust a Transpac for men. There is a separate video for female
[video=youtube;YGlNnsZiWrM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGlNnsZiWrM[/video]

Don a Transpac
[video=youtube;5hTtxV21qiU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hTtxV21qiU&index=2&list=PL65F862433A0406C B[/video]
 
Thanks! I've seen a couple of them but will watch the rest.
 
You might need them with a tank that carries a ton of ballast for sure, but some that dive in light/no suits, avoid crotch straps for comfort and use of doffing. Putting weight on in pockets on the harness and carrying a negative tank though makes it harder to get by without crotch straps.

Personally, I never wear a crotch strap, unless I am strapping on steel doubles though, because I can use the cinching at the waist and shoulder that a Transpac allows to lock the harness into place. (I also carry the weight on the harness, but threaded onto the hips under the D-Rings.

I will say this about steel 80's. Unless you are smaller man, or a woman, I have not met many people who choose that tank when others are available. It puts too much weight up too high and tends to slop around in a soft pack like a Transpac.


Note: The excellent videos linked above are for the Tranpac XT which rides pretty differently than the various earlier Transpacs. Most people who are picky enough to notice really prefer the XT versions of the Transpacs. They have gradually gotten better, and better, and finally are back to the quality of the original Transpacs which were near perfect before DiveRite lost their manufacturing facility to ScubaPro way back when ScubaPro first started making technical rigs in the 90's.
 
yeah no. Crotch straps are perfectly fine in bathing suits provided they are adjusted properly. I have well over a thousand hours in a rig like that.... Halcyon Eclipse with an AL80 in a bathing suit.... The Dive Rite padded 2" Crotch straps are perfectly fine, though I use 1" crotch straps on my transpac for warm water diving with no DPV and it is quite comfortable. Much more so than having to tighten all of the straps so you can't breathe or move. Remember that the only strap that is supposed to be "snug" is the chest strap, crotch strap, and waist strap. The waist strap should be no tighten than any other belt you wear, so comfortable, and the shoulder straps should actually be fairly loose
 
Yeah, yes. Don't dismiss people's opinions like that. It's rude, and it's for no reason, since the OP was asking not about a continuous webbing system like the Halcyon Eclipse, but a Transpac.

Just because you personally like/need things between your legs does not mean others do. I have done well over one million hours in every version of the Transpac ever made, and have dove everywhere in the world twice.

But seriously, I have owned, and worn out every version of the Transpac made. I have done some diving with a crotch strap but if the gear is cinched right, the crotch strap is not necessary, espeically with the switch to the thin shoulder webbing harness plates on the Transpac a few years ago. Remember the OP mentioned a Transpac, and not a Halcyon Eclipse, and that may help you understand the difference. Not everyone likes or need their gear snug. I like it snug and need it snug. Or more correctly I like it adjustable with the potential for snug since I have to get in and out of my gear in the water daily (another reason not wear a crotch strap).

Continuous webbing harness cannot be, (or for that matter should not be) tightened enough to eliminate the ride-up, and so they need a crotch strap. A Transpac can, however, be snugged enough to eliminate ride up for many divers. Plenty of people are fine with not cinching down the Transpac because they prefer the looser fit like a continuous webbing harness, or they are just used to that looser fit because they came from BP/Ws , and thus use the crotch strap. Others use crotch straps only in wetsuits,

And still others, like me, hate crotch straps, and find them chafing and uncomfortable. For the same reason that continous webbing harnesses without extensive padding in general are chafing and uncomfortable for those people. Few working divers who have fought through a rashes and infection like bare webbing anywhere. (Bare webbing like in either continuous webbing BP/W or crotch straps). And they tend to think no webbing should be anywhere near their soft pink bits, be they between the leg danglies or skin anywhere. Cummerbunds, shoulder pads, back pads etc. are not niceties but requirements for them. And that's why they chose the Transpac in the first place. It's not for everyone, partly because you have to buy the right size, unlike continuous harness systems which can be made th right size.

On the separate fit issue, you personally may not care if your rig slops around on you, and you may think it's okay if it does. For those sorts of people. a crotch strap is the way you have to go to keep the gear from riding up on you. I hate the rig slopping around on me so I use adjustable harness and snug it up to eliminate slop, for fit purposes, and that also eliminates the need for crotch straps for me.

Of course, since you seem to know what everyone does when diving, maybe I am wrong about what I do when diving. I do do it for a living, but I guess I am doing it wrong. But my gear does say DiveRite on it. So maybe I am doing it right.

Either way, try to be nicer.
 
and dive rite says crotch strap makes for the best fit on the transpac. I'm aware it can be cinched, and I do not advocate crotch straps without neoprene padding on them, even my 1" crotch strap has a neoprene sleeve put on it.

You need your rig cinched because you don't have a crotch strap, the only way the rig is stable vertically is because you have to cinch the waist strap way down. With a crotch strap, nothing is cinched, and everything is stable. If you get chaffed, you are using stiff crotch strap webbing, which you're not supposed to do. The webbing for the crotch strap should be very different from the webbing used on the shoulder straps to prevent this, and you should not feel said crotch strap unless you are vertical.
 

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