Pro Dive Cairns Review

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w0nger

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Calgary, Canada
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This adventure started out back in October. Through what I thought was thorough research. I happily booked a dive trip for myself, my sister and my friend. Both my sister and I were booked for open water dives and my friend for the open water course. We had booked through an agent, Aquapro Dive Travel, AquaProDive.com, because they were offering a slight discount, however the five trip costed us $620 AUD and the OW course $740 AUD.

As we arrived into Australia from Canada, we landed in Sydney where we spent a few days vacationing. The day that we planned to fly to Cairns, Quantas had a labour dispute and shut down the airline that weekend. As a result of this, our flight was cancelled and we could not get to Cairns. I immediately called Pro Dive and explained the situation, however they were apathetic to the reason and told us that because we didn’t cancel within the 48 hours of our plans that we could not receive a refund. I was extremely disappointed.

Pro Dive then offered to credit our money for a period of six months so that we could use it again at a later date with the stipulation that we could only use it as a wait-list for their boats. I did not have much of a choice and therefore accepted. Upon my return to Canada, I began to make plans for the next trip to Cairns to try again to make this great GBR dive.

I kept in contact with Pro Dive over emails throughout my winter months and we came to the conclusion that March would be the best time to go as it was their low season. My sister and I made plans to fly around the world again. We were assured time and time again that the dates that we had planned would be great and that we wouldn’t have a problem with getting on the boat. We had put our names down on their lists for the option of 3 different days and started our travels with confidence.

Prior to our departure from Canada, I reconfirmed with Pro Dive that the dates we listed for would be available and they assured me that we should not have a problem. As we arrived through Hong Kong on our connecting flight, I received an e-mail from Pro Dive saying that things were not looking good anymore but they were trying to keep a couple spots open for us. I was worried and replied that we would be there within eight hours.

As soon as we arrived to Cairns, we immediately went straight to the Pro Dive Shop and introduced ourselves. Nicky, the lady that helped us out immediately provided us with a smile and began to explain that the dates that we had selected were all booked up. Disappointed and frustrated I asked her if there were any more available, she explained that there was an opening on a Sunday (We had listed for thur, fri, and sat). I jumped at the opportunity, however frustrated because now I knew I would have to re-arrange all our flights, accommodations and my work schedule back home, but I flew around the world just for this trip!

Nicky tried to book us for the Sunday trip however she ran into problems and could not. She called the head office asking for help when they started to explain to her that she was not allowed to put my sister and I on the boat and that we had to be wait listed. The only way was for us to pay for the whole trip again to be confirmed. I was outraged!! I’m standing right there in front of them having travelled for nearly 20 hours and they tell me that they can’t put me on the boat. Nicky then continued to tell me that they were having a special that week and that the trip was cheaper than it usually is, $535 AUD. Although her intention was good, her impact was not. Why were they discounting the trip to fill the boat when they assured me that they were trying to keep the spots open for us before we arrived?!?!

This was absurd! I travelled around the world to use money that I already paid them in confidence that they were going to help us out in getting us on a boat for a range of dates that they confirmed were a good idea. They then would not put us on a boat when I arrived knowing that I was the one that had to change all my plans (at a hefty financial cost) to accommodate for them. They then said I had to pay again!!!!!???!!!

I was naturally upset, however, I remained calm and tried to reason with them. They had already taken my friends money with no regard or refund, and were trying to swindle more money from us. I offered to pay them a premium (of about $100 AUD) to confirm our spots on the boat for Sunday, however they refused. After a while of pacing and realizing that I did not want to miss this opportunity having flown around the world, I tried to make other compromises. I asked if I could have the credit made transferable so that if I could make this trip I could at least give it to a friend of family member, they refused. Finally, I said that I would pay the price of the confirmed trip providing that they take the monetary value of the credit and give it to the crew as a gratuity. The business had already taken my friend’s $740 AUD without providing services, why should they take our money as well?!? I was more than happy to make this deal because I could see that Nicky was frustrated too and that she did want to help us. The company still refused!!

At this point I was very angry. My sister was in tears and I knew that I had a lot of work to do in order to change all our plans and still have to pay the full (but discounted for this week!) price to make this dive happen. Here came the biggest mistake I made, I paid for the trip in full, again!!

Their consolation was that they would keep our credit live for another 6 months and now offer transferability of the name, but why would I let someone go through the exact same experience I just had?!?

I am really disappointed in the way this business is run. I understand that every business is out to make money, however this business pretty much bullied my money out of me. My mistake was letting them do it. Every business will come into contact with extenuating circumstances, it’s how you deal with those circumstances which speak loudest.

-When Pro Dive refused to give us a refund or even partial returns, they acted like a greedy company.

-When they were told that my friend could not return for a second trip to Australia from Canada, they refused to allow any transferability of his credit and said that there was nothing they could do.

-When they told me that they were doing everything they could to hold our spots for our arrival, tell us that it’s a good time to travel, then say that the spots were full, and I find out they were offering a special week discount to walk-ups for those dates that we had agreed to, they were being UNTRUSTWORTHY, DECEPTIVE, and MANIPULATIVE.

-They would not empower their own employees to do what they knew was right.

This company is not reputable in my books and I feel like I let them steal from me. I suppose part of the problem was me letting them do what they did to me and now I hope that this won’t happen to anyone else.

The trip went well and their staff was professional, it’s a shame that they have to work for a company that does not put their guests first and is run solely for the purpose of extorting money from their customers. The way I was treated by the company makes me feel bad for the way they may treat their own employees.

It is my recommendation as a traveler, diver, employee of a major airline, that this company is not well run.


I know that I am not alone in similar opinions as when I spoke to other in the region while I was there, many people did not have a good opinion of them, had I known this, I would have never booked this trip with Pro Dive. Do not make my mistake! There are better businesses out there that deserve your hard earned money!!!
 
+1 on talking to the ACCC. They might be able to help, although I would have thought this would have been covered by your travel insurance? Doesn't make up for the inconvenience but at least you might get some money back.

Either way it's a terrible situation to have to go through. I hope the diving was good at least.
 
I feel for you.

I faced simular service from Emporer Divers in Sharl el Sheikh last February when the Arab Spring Revolution was happening. The US State Department was trying to get all Americans out of Egypt and Emporers was telling me that everything in Egypt was just as normal. :no: Finally after a bunch of emails back and forth with various salesmen in Great Britian, they offered me partial credit for future trips. I had Visa refund my money.

The Hilton in Sharm, the Mariott in Cairo, Uni-World Tours, and EgyptAir, all issued full refunds understanding that the times were unique and difficult at no fault of mine. Since then I have booked with all of these companies. I have no desire to ever deal with Emporer's in Sharm or anywhere else they operate. WHile I recognize that the guys/gals on he ground are hard workers, they still have to answer to the Corporation back in England at the end of the day. In three weeks I will be in Sharm, but not with Emporer's.

I really find this post interesting as my daughter and I were going to travel to Cairnes and Pro DIve next Dec and do some training. Not so sure now. A simple work around for you would have been first offer a refund the first time if they could not provide an adjusted schedule. Second when you "re-booked" your trips you should have been on the itinerary list, not on standby.

When will people realize that in a "Service" industry, you need to provide "Service"; that recommendations and repeat business is much easier to get than that first time business call.:idk:

~Michael~
 
Thanks for the link to the ACCC. I have just sent prodive formally requesting a refund for the so called "credit" that they gave me and we shall see how good their business practices are.

I know businesses are out to make money... but I feel so manipulated. They new I had flown around the world just to dive with them and they took advantage of me when I got there, essentially manipulating me into paying twice over for my trip. Did I mention that they took my friend's $740 AUD for his OW certification and never refunded that at all?? And wouldn't even credit that portion of the payment? It's sickening and dishonest.
 
Did you not have full travel insurance?

Pro Dive aren't a company with many franchises due to warm hearts and freebies, but I do feel there's an explanation on their side as well. Good luck with the ACCC if there's a case to answer they will peruse it, they are pretty good from my experience but you need to have your facts straight and evidence to back your claims, they get 1000's of people out to make a quick buck.
 
I originally helped out w0nger here, but this is the first I heard, due to another poster PM'ing me about this. I really don't know what to say, and have spoken to the management of Pro Dive to see if there was anything that could have been done different.

First off writing to the ACCC will get no results. Pro Dive clearly have a policy which states any cancellation within 48 hours results in no refund.

Second, personally I do think the booking staff at the shop could have spoken to management to see if they could hold a spot, especially as w0nger was on his way. They agree on this and it may have been considered but management were not consulted.

Thirdly, they could have offered (and I believe they did do this) w0nger to book again at current price allowing them to reserve a place. If there had been availability then they would shave got a refund as they would snot have had to go on the wait lit. I can see w0ngers reluctance to do this as there would have been a chance that they may have had to pay twice.

The owner of the business is now looking in to it as well as the Marketing Manger. As Pro Dive are now 100% owned by Quicksilver it is not just a Pro Dive decision.

Overall, this is a harsh outcome and I can see both sides. I see Pro Dives business decisions can sometimes have results like this, and I really feel sorry for w0nger and his sister. I hope there is a favourable financial outcome that comes of this, but it doesn't make up for their disappointment.

Pro Dive still are one of the better operators and despite all these problems I think at the end of the day one lesson learnt is that anyone travelling overseas should get travel insurance. This is what is safeguards against.
 
to follow up:

Alright, so, I had a good and productive discussion with Rod of Pro Dive Cairns. As the general manager, he is a stand up guy. Very well business minded and great customer service. He's a testament to the service and tourism industry. Through our conversation we managed to come to an amicable agreement and he has essentially corrected my view of Pro Dive as a consumer. He has renewed my faith in the company and I have had a change of heart. I will recommend this dive operation for others in the future. It was through an unfortunate set of circumstances that I was placed in the position that I was in the first place but things are better now.

I know that there is no perfect business out there; however I'm a firm believer that it is how a business handles the problems that arises that make them the successful business that they are. I can say that in the future, I will keep Pro Dive as a consideration when I plan on visiting Australia again in the future.

I wish all the best to Pro Dive and I hope that what happened to me doesn't happen to others. Empowering your employees to make the right decision in the first place and giving them the ability to maintain the integrity of your business can go a long way in customer service. I commend Rod in his actions and wish him all the best in his continued endeavours as the general manager.
 
My congratulations to you, w0nger, on handling this in a gentlemanly fashion. The fact you have been temperate enough to accept an agreement and move on speaks volumes as to your reasonableness. I live in Queensland, and will doubtless dive Cairns sooner or later. I am left wondering how this would have been resolved had you not gone public with your concerns, but take you at your word that the outcome was agreeable to you. I hope management has taken steps to ensure other customers are not similarly inconvenienced. It does underline the need for good travel insurance also.
 
Firstly, I'm glad you got it all sorted. And good on Pro Dive Cairns for sorting this out, as you say, what really matters is service when things go wrong.

First off writing to the ACCC will get no results. Pro Dive clearly have a policy which states any cancellation within 48 hours results in no refund.
Just FYI, such statements are generally not worth the ink they are printed with. Terms limiting liability have to be specifically permitted by the Australian Consumer Law (contained in a schedule to the Competition and Consumer Act 2010).
 
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