Pricing mysteries at AKR, from DEMA, SB Invasion, their website….

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Doc

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For several years, AKR offered an on-going and then, seemingly forevermore “BOGO” rate structure offering.

Any discount is always shown (in any type marketing) applied against the highest standard everyday price. In the hotel industry, this price point is referred to as “Rack Rate”.

So, AKR had trained customers to expect a Two-Fer, Buy-One-Get-One rate. Just before the initial introduction (6 years back?) of this 50% off rate, they also had bumped their Rack Rate up about 2X to crazy high numbers, basically doubling the Rack Rate of a single diver rate (not the single diver supplement). The industry was puzzled. But not for long.

[This making opting for the Single Diver Supplement less desirable? They more than make up for that per-night discount by the presence of another seat at the bar, gift shop, etc. ]

This BOGO is considered in marketing an irreversible move, like getting a tattoo. You have trained your audience to buy only when you offer BOGO. How to get out of this blind canyon?

The entire BOGO offering, beyond pre-inflating the Rack Rate prior to the offer, had enough hidden add-on fees that although minor, did add-up. AKR has only one “comp set”, an industry phrase that refers to comparable properties. That is CCV. Those are the two Five Star Dive resorts on the rock. Even then, it’s hard to make direct comparisons, both properties have their features, they appeal to slightly different divers. Close enough.

With the BOGO, the AKR pricing after considering after sale ad-ons, was approximately $40/pax wk cheaper than CCV. (pax wk = per person per week). No large distinction, even then disregarding the Shore Dive disparity. BOGO, if you’d really study it, was not anything to get excited about, but it did have flash and it worked.

So, a few months back, AKR made that initial huge leap to get out of that BOGO trap.

What follows are current screen shots:

AKR 2022, now that 2022 bookings are over and discounts can be quietly withdrawn or altered

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So, it’s $1469 for a week in the nicer room, 45% off rack rate which nobody ever paid. $1469 is the Rack Rate.

Then if you look at 2023, here’s a page with a year-long offer of a discount rate. Note the start date for booking is April 14th 2022, but it can be withdrawn at any time. Certainly a smart precaution with the world economy in the flux that it is.

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An increased Rack Rate of $2835, “discounted” to $1549. It’s about 45% off of the Rack Rate. So essentially, $1549 becomes the de facto Rack Rate, an $80 increase over 2022

A week at AKR seems a good deal at $1549.

Now, here’s the Special Discount price for Scuba Board Invasion, with the admonition:
(…for SB Invasion…) They have to give us our own deal that no one can match
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That’s $261 over the highest Rack Rate, Then the comps.

No one can match that… when anyone can beat it.

I may be way off on this, math is not my strong suit, but I hope you‘ll see and agree the multiple screens currently shown on-line by AKR are a bit confusing. I’ve always thought that they were intentionally so, but again, i need a calculator to count my toes. I think they confused the SB Invasion team, too.

They have found an exit strategy from the incurable BOGO, but are still discounting (until withdrawn, at an adjustable %) from the already grossly inflated Rack Rate.

[Truth be known, AKR bottom line was previously quite insulated from week-long guest profits due to the dolphins and Cruise Ship programs, but times are tough, day visitor volume is way down, and money is money]

2023 is about to be hard times for the Dive Travel Industry, largely due to fuel costs and food, esp. for AI pre-priced packages. The illusion of a cheaper stay by going guest house (day dive) ala-crate because you’re not paying AI food costs will further drop into the illusionary realm. Hang on.
 
Looking at their website, why not just book the honeymoon package for 2? Significantly cheaper and very close to the original Bogo🤣
 
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We've been to AKR three times and loved it, and felt we saved hundreds over CCV, but they are pricing themselves out as far as we are concerned.
 
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@Doc

One thing you don't mention which needs to be is that the pricing posted on their website does not include the 19% tax whereas the Invasion pricing does. When adding the tax to the website price for the Key Deluxe, which is the most expensive at $1549/pp for the dive package, the total price is $1843. That constitutes a savings of $33/pp for the week, which isn't much, but it's something. Plus there are usually a few other small perks the Invasion crew have available to them that are not available to the regular guests.

Now, whether this has anything to do with your point in your OP I'm not sure. Is it expensive? Yes, but is pretty much in line with other comparable packages. Is it a marketing ploy? Absolutely. But it's not much different than a manufacturer's MSRP (manufacturer's suggested retail price) which is generally double what the retailer pays for the product. The retailer can then set their price a bit lower, point to the MSRP, and show the customer what a great deal they're getting all the while still making a nice profit.
 
Put on your matching Hawaiian shirts and go as honeymooners!

But I want to dive. Does the honeymoon package include diving?

NM, I see that it can. It still is much pricier at $3442 plus taxes than we've been paying for a couple. In 2016, our first trip all in was about $2200. In 2019, our third trip, that had went to $2600.

And with 2023 pricing for Key Deluxe at $1549 x 2 = $3098, where are you getting that the honeymoon is significantly cheaper. The standard pricing is cheaper. And that doesn't even factor that I can select a lower room class and save hundreds more.
 
Likely CCV prices are on their way up just like every place else. Food, fuel... everthing has gone up. Hopefully that supply/demand/price thing i learned 35 years ago kicks in in soon.
 
@Doc

One thing you don't mention which needs to be is that the pricing posted on their website does not include the 19% tax whereas the Invasion pricing does.
The beauty of wiki, like I said, math escapes me, especially when presented in gobbledygook. THANK YOU!
 
But I want to dive. Does the honeymoon package include diving?

NM, I see that it can. It still is much pricier at $3442 plus taxes than we've been paying for a couple. In 2016, our first trip all in was about $2200. In 2019, our third trip, that had went to $2600.

And with 2023 pricing for Key Deluxe at $1549 x 2 = $3098, where are you getting that the honeymoon is significantly cheaper. The standard pricing is cheaper. And that doesn't even factor that I can select a lower room class and save hundreds more.

Sorry, maybe I misread that a 7 night dive package in 2023 was 2835/pp (~5700) or key delux?

The key delux on honeymoon is 3442 per couple...
 
Likely CCV prices are on their way up just like every place else. Food, fuel... everthing has gone up. Hopefully that supply/demand/price thing i learned 35 years ago kicks in in soon.
That there is the big message I threw in at the end. We divers and snow skiers leave a heavy carbon footprint, and that reference is NOT about being green. We have got to pay huge fuel price increases every time we vacay dive.

CCV rates vary by season. Looks like AKR discounts are on a par with CCV’s straight presentation, CCV is notably cheaper in off season:
(imho Sep-Jan sucks the big one down there)

CCV 2022
jan-sept $1564, sept-Jan $1364

CCV 2023
jan-sept $1614, sept-Jan $1414


AKR just sits at $1549 in 2023

CCV presents it’s rates simply and concisely. No flipping from page to page, no ridiculous 45% discount, no marketing flimflam, no add-ons for basic std services. That’s my other big point of this thread, AKR has for several years relied upon sales BOGO BS. My wife does this crap for major hotel chains, she calls the lies that she believes “room revenue management”, from an algorithm which she first helped pioneer for the airlines. We are old.

For the many years of BOGO, the buying public was deluded into believing that they were getting some sort of bargain. The math proved otherwise, but there was a hoarde of true believers. There is no free lunch, as your dad used to quip. This is the usefulness of the lie that BOGO represents.

Another hidden thing that bears repeating: AKR really didn’t care if their resort was full, as long as the hundreds of day visitors from Cruise Ships supported the place. If they were crazy busy three days a week, it was more money than they ever before imagined. The dive op and staff would be on day offs when there were no ships- but kept busy enough by the week-long visitors. Covid continues to pinch that flow of revenue. Back to filling the resort for real, now. Of all this, I do have personal sources of information. I’m in no way denigrating a system, I’m just an observer of this micro economic model.

AKR has a profound history in what we call Roatan. This is where Peter Hughes got his start as a Dive Master. This was the site of Roatan’s first (long gone) Casino. The owner of AKR pretty much-so controls every facet of the island’s tourism industry, most visibly is “Maya Key”, ”Mahogany Bay’ (Google those) and political office. He’s done a lot of good, but AKR just doesn’t conform to our US perceptions of business model. They do different things for different reasons.

The CCV/AKR cost difference is so small (either way), other considerations should take precedence for any consumer.

These two world-class resorts are priced so similarly that the gross cost is irrelevant.
 
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