Preventing Harness Webbing Wear

[Wallowa]

OK....his videos are not just for training but I believe mostly just informational ,,,, take it or leave it ....I prefer not to follow the industry as it changes the paradigm to meet "new and improved" modes...change is not necessary if it is working....anyway take a look, lots here and perhaps a few nuggets to learn from...and Trimix Instructors are not the end-all-to-be-all....just instructors

Dive Zone Scuba

This channel contains videos primarily related to technical scuba diving training, techniques, equipment, and trips. However, many of the concepts are also useful for recreational divers in general.

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[The Chairman]

I've invented a few things in my life. I might be the only one who likes them, and I'm OK with that.

 

[The Chairman]

and someone teaching others what to do, specially from the position he sits on, a trimix instructor,

Caveat emptor. There's lots of judging in diving. This agency think that agency stinks and so on. I mean, next you're gonna tell me is that I'll die if I use his ideas. It's not like they're split fins!

 

[johndiver999]

Looks like someone who likes to fiddle with their dive gear. I can relate to that.

But.. I could see a nut bolt connection opening up a lot quicker (and without warning) compared to a belt with a lifting capacity of 2000 lbs wearing through to a point of catastrophic failure.

I have seen a few people (who probably dive more days in the week than they don't) have harness straps that are 2/3 torn through. I think it is a badge of honor more than anything.

I would much rather see someone who could invent a semi-rigid, and comfortable, shoulder strap, holder upper, so that I can more easily get into my BC when unassisted by a buddy.

 

[eightytwenty]

Lots of convolution for seemingly no benefit whatsoever. Grinding holes in the plate to avoid slipping webbing through the pre-cut slots? The measures taken to avoid this weird phobia of the continuous webbing tearing or being damaged to a dangerous level (has anyone ever seen this?) are bonkers.

I could see a nut bolt connection opening up a lot quicker (and without warning) compared to a belt with a lifting capacity of 2000 lbs wearing through to a point of catastrophic failure.

Yes. Especially when the connection is constantly being tugged on. Think of the wingnuts on a set of doubles. They gradually work themselves loose from being picked up and set down. Encouraging people to use plain old nuts and machine screws to hold harness webbing in place is far more likely to create a catastrophic harness failure (never thought I'd say those words) than worn down continuous webbing.

In a vacuum chamber, these videos are almost funny. Then I'm reminded this guy is out there minting trimix students.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

This is how I handled it

And then rounded over the plate edge so it wouldn't wear the webbing.

 

[The Chairman]

compared to a belt with a lifting capacity of 2000 lbs

The webbing is def over-kill. My first dive back in 1969 had me tie a rope around the neck of my tank and loop it around to tie it around the base of the tank. Nope. It didn't hold, and I ended up dragging that tank back under my arm. It didn't break: it slipped. My next thing was a bought "at-pac". Oh schnieckies. The webbing on that was maybe 1/2" and as uncomfortable as that rope. Yeesh! Still, no bladder, and while I saw horse collars come and go, I didn't have a bladder until almost the turn of this century. I tried this, I tried that, I even went over to a full backplate and wing. It was too, too stiff, and finally I gave it up and went to a hybrid with a flex plate and much, much softer webbing. Two pieces of it too! Who the hell needs 2,000 pounds of strength???

 

[Nick_Radov]

Caveat emptor. There's lots of judging in diving. This agency think that agency stinks and so on. I mean, next you're gonna tell me is that I'll die if I use his ideas. It's not like they're split fins!

You literally might die if you use some of his more stupid and dangerous ideas like color coding deco stage regulators. Judging is one thing, but if @divezonescuba is teaching this stuff then he's going to get a student killed someday. This is not OK. We've seen this happen before with other incompetent instructors and we have a duty to call them out.

 

[NothingClever]

Chris, dude…

I couldn’t even finish watching.

Coming on ScubaBoard, posting your stuff and then just getting pilloried can’t be good for your mental health.

Weren’t you on airborne status? You know we have easily-understood standards for acceptable wear of harness and riser fabric webbing. Why not just adapt those for diving?

I really recommend you develop a small circle of friends to preview your content and provide advice. Don’t pick former students, pick people who you know will provide candid feedback.

 

[NothingClever]

You literally might die if you use some of his more stupid and dangerous ideas...duty to call them out.

Chris recently posted some craziness about introducing a false gas in his calculations to trick the DPS and provide him an ascent pressure. It was simply convoluted. I was so disquieted I just walked away from ScuaBoard until I was certain the thread got buried.