Pregnant question RE diving

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Hi Rob_lee_1,

You've received a lot of information; some of it spot on, some of it unclear and some of it just plain nonsense.

Let's try to sort it out a bit.

1. H2Andy states: "the greatest pressure change happens in the top 15 feet of water."

The intent of this is unclear as there is nothing special about 15'.

According to Boyle's law, the greatest pressure changes occur within the first measurable amount water. For example, the increase in pressure/compression of the body's air-containing spaces from 14' to 15' is less than that from 2' to 3'. Likewise, the decrease in pressure/expansion within the body's air-containing spaces from 15' to 14' is less than that from 3' to 2'.

If this comment was in reference to barotrauma, cases have been recorded in which depths of only 4' were involved.

The point to take away is that you don't have go very deep at all to be at risk for barotrauma.

2. Hickdive states: "AFAIK no-one has ever done a study into human pregnancy and diving."

The quantity, quality and consistency of the research to date is far less than is desirable, but we do have some.

While no researcher has ever selected pregnant women to be subject to hyperbaric manipulation, women who independently have engaged in scuba because they: (1) didn't yet know they were pregnant; (2) where unaware it could be harmful to the developing fetus; and/or (3) needed to continue to make a living have been studied by survey.

Studies include:

(1) Bolton (1980) surveyed 208 pregnant divers; 136 had dived while pregnant for a total of 145 dived pregnancies. There was a greater number of fetal abnormalities in diving mothers compared with the non-diving group.

(2) Betts (1985) and Bakkevig (1989) conducted survey studies and both observed an incidence of fetal abnormalities in the reported dived pregnancies.

(3) An American Academy of Underwater Sciences (1986) symposium on women reported that still births are higher for women commercial divers than that of the general population.

(4) The DDRC (1995) surveyed 116 women who had dived while pregnant for a total of 142 dived pregnancies. Although the spontaneous abortion rate between the women who had dived while pregnant and those who had not dived while pregnant did not differ, the women who had indulged in "holiday style" diving (multi-day, and consecutive day diving) compared with those who had not undertaken the same style of diving, reported more spontaneous abortions.

Then of course there are many animal studies, a number of which have noted increases in a variety of fetal abnormalities, notably cardiac malformations.

The point to go away with is that while we have precious little research and it is inconsistent, it is enough for the prudent woman to conclude that diving while pregnant is risky.

3. truck1 states: "I would check with DAN and doctor who knows about diving and diving related illnesses."

DAN's position has been repeated in many dive publications over the years and has long appeared on its website.

In a recent issue of Sport Diver, Joel Dovenbarger, R.N., Director of Medical Services, said: ''In the best of circumstances, recommendations are based on data -- solid research that is accepted by all parties. Unfortunately, on this issue total agreement does not exist. The big concern is of course AGE (arterial gas embolism -- an air bubble). You only need 4 feet of water to have an incident; AGE is, however, the least common decompression-related injury. ''Is there something about being pregnant that could lead to AGE? If you're in the water, breathing scuba, there is a risk. How big, we don't know. But pregnancy can have its side effects such as nausea commonly associated with morning sickness, delayed emptying of the stomach and increased acidity. What about a tight-fitting BC chest or waist strap? Could all of these things add up to an incident? They could. Additionally, this risk is not found in the majority of the diving population, so there may well be an increased risk. ''What effect on the fetus? We can't really say for sure, but theoretically, any treatment or problem the mother may have, from seasickness to getting chilled, will be passed on to the fetus.' Pregnancies are for nine months, but scuba is for a lifetime. It's reasonable to wait out the pregnancy and dive without incident rather than to dive while pregnant and worry about having a problem or actually having something happen (which can randomly occur, anyway!) and blame oneself for the poor outcome'.''

The DAN website, under a section entitled "Restrictions on Diving," states: "Because little is known about the effects of scuba diving on an unborn child, it is recommended that pregnant women wait to dive until after a pregnancy."

The point to go away with is this is what you'll be told by DAN.

Moreover, the Guidelines of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (2003) for exercise during pregnancy and the postpartum period direct that "scuba diving should be avoided throughout pregnancy because the fetus is at increased risk of decompression sickness secondary to the inability of the fetal pulmonary circulation to filter bubble formation."

4. page.crow states: "Imagine the pressure on the inner ear when you go down in the pool. The same pressure is being exerted through the vaginal barrel, into the cervix of the uterus, and upon the beginnings of an amniotic sac, the "bag of waters" of the baby."

This is simply silly. As indicated by TSandM (aka Dr. Lynne Flaherty, a diving ER surgeon), "There is no issue of increased pressure across the amniotic fluid. There are no air spaces within the fetus, and the pressure simply equalizes across all fluid-filled spaces."

The point to go away with is when you have a medical question it often is best to seek a physician who understands the basic principles of scuba.

I hope this proves helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
DocVikingo:
1. H2Andy states: "the greatest pressure change happens in the top 15 feet of water."

The intent of this is unclear as there is nothing special about 15'.


15 feet being the depth of the pool they were going to swim in

the intent being that that's deep enough to cause problems. i have
read that the greatest pressure changes happen in the first half atmosphere
gained (i.e. 15 feet or so)

read the question, Doc
 
Hi H2Andy,

We're in agreement that ~4 meters of water is "deep enough to cause problems." Mercy, I love this precision of language ; ) It's deep enough to drown in and that's a really big "problem." But, it isn't deep enough to develop DCS during recreational diving. It is deep enough to make barotrauma and AGE possibilities. For reasons which I hope are now obvious, I felt it made sense to talk in more precise terms regarding depth and pressure and their implications for potential depth/pressure-related injuries.

I also agree that "greatest pressure changes happen in the first half atmosphere gained (i.e. 15 feet or so)." However, I refined this to reflect the precision afforded by Boyle's law so that readers don't go away with the notion there's anything magical about 15'. The fact is pressure changes are greatest in the very shallowest water.

Didn't mean to offend, old chap.

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
DocVikingo:
Didn't mean to offend, old chap.

not at all... sorry if it came across that way

it's just that i didn't pull the 15 feet thing out of thin air :wink:
 
Thanks very much DocVikingo and everyone else who has given us help and info.

I really appreciate it :)

Our Diving instructor has giving us a number of the local doctor (who is also a highly qualified diver) So we are going to call him and get some more advice of him.

Thanks Rob
 
Rob,
I was signed up to start my cert. classes when I became pregnant. I waited until after my daughter was born (+ 5 yrs LOL) and am now certified with a healthy daughter :) I'd wait....
Angela
 
What about diving when you don't know if you a pregnant?
For example ... me and my wife, both divers, make love without contraception
and you can never be sure about pregnancy, because you must wait for testing
time (I think is minimum 3 week after ovulation' day). Is there a problem if
my wife go to dive in there three weeks?
 
Hi Kruz,

For several obvious reasons, this particular situation has not been studied. As such, it is wise to be conservative. Maida Taylor, MD, MPH, FACOG, a diving medicine and women's health expert, advises, "...no diving while pregnant or even trying to conceive...."

Should a diver inadvertently scuba during the very earliest stages of pregnancy, there seems to be little reason for concern about maternal or fetal health. However, diving should cease once pregnancy is discovered.

Helpful?

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual and should not be construed as such.

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
Thanx for your fast answer, i also found some more informations on http://www.scuba-doc.com/
the copy of text:

Diving in Very Early Pregnancy
If you are planning a perfect holiday for diving, sun and you really want to try and conceive on the first three days of your ten day holiday, what do you do about the possibility of damaging the embryo?
Bottom line - you should probably go ahead and completely enjoy your dive trip. The reasons are multiple. First, a normal couple, actively trying to achieve a pregnancy, actually is successful only once in three or four months of trying to conceive - so the odds are that you won't get pregnant on this trip (although it's certainly not unlikely).

Second, the embryo does not actually attach to the wall of the uterus for about seven days, receiving its nourishment from fluids secreted by the Fallopian tube and uterus. Even though attachment to the wall of the uterus occurs about a week after ovulation, it is later in pregnancy (at least another week to ten days) before there is any effective maternal-placental blood circulation. The major theory for the cause of fetal malformations associated with diving concerns the possibility of transfer of intra-vascular bubbles from mother to fetus. As there is no effective circulation in the earliest stages of pregnancy we are considering, this is possible cause is not a concern.

Third, many thousands of women have been diving unknowingly at the same early stage of pregnancy you might be in - there is no evidence of an increase in miscarriages or other problems in these women who have been diving around the time of conception. In fact, before pregnant women were advised not to dive, several studies looked at women who dived throughout pregnancy. Although we no longer recommend diving during a recognized pregnancy, there is no solid scientific data to prove that diving is dangerous to the fetus.
Finally, the very early embryo is still composed of cells which have not yet undergone differentiation - that is, one cell isn't destined to be the heart, another the left arm, etc. If any single cell is damaged at this very early stage of pregnancy, other cells can "step in" to form the needed structures. Only later, after differentiation, will damage to a single cell likely result in an abnormality.

Martin M. Quigley, MD
(Certified in Obstetrics & Gynecology and Reproductive Endocrinology)
Consultant for Diving Medicine Online
 
Hi Kruz,

My pleasure.

My statement, "Should a diver inadvertently scuba during the very earliest stages of pregnancy, there seems to be little reason for concern about maternal or fetal health," appears consistent with Dr. Quigley's position. And we both seem to agree that, "...we no longer recommend diving during a recognized pregnancy...."

It is because of the profound lack of knowledge about the real risks, if any, involved in diving while pregnant that the conservative approach is, ""...no diving while pregnant or even trying to conceive...."

The acceptance of risk is on balance a very personal matter. Only you and your wife can decide what level of risk to a possible pregnancy you are willing to accept.

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual and should not be construed as such.

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
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