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Gary D.

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To make a long story real short; A gal that works with my daughter has been having trouble with her 21-year-old doper son. He has a $50K probation warrant out for him, is very depressed and he has attempted suicide several times in the past.

Last week he was seen leaving his vehicle and going up onto Tubbs Hill which is on the lake right in town. In his vehicle were a few pills, empty Vodka bottles and a suicide note. Other than that, nothing to point to where he might be.

Three different dogs have searched the area and all three have gone to one area of the hill near the water. Today a cadaver dog went to the same area. OOP’s. May be something else but we will check it out in a few days when the weather improves.

I have mixed feelings for the mom. In one way I hope it’s him and her nightmare will come to an end. In another way I hope he just split and shows up later, but that might be just as hard on her.

I don’t know what to hope for.

Here is the sat pic of the hill. My boat slip is in the marina to the right. http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=12&x=645&y=6598&z=11&w=1

Gary D.
 
We have a water dog enroute that may give us a better starting point if there is even one to be had.

We don't want to just start diving because it has some serious up's and downs. Lots of shelf's, boulders, overhangs and deep water.

Evidence is pointing more towards the water. Time will tell. The SS will not work in conditions like these.

Gary D.
 
Gary D.:
We have a water dog enroute that may give us a better starting point if there is even one to be had.

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Gary:

The water cadaver dogs we have worked with in the past have done a tremendous job in keying in on targets. Hopefully they won't locate anything. Unfortunately, when 3 dogs got hits to the same point and no lead-aways, not sounding too promising.

Be careful of the hazards.

Dan
 
Boater Dan:
Gary:

The water cadaver dogs we have worked with in the past have done a tremendous job in keying in on targets. Hopefully they won't locate anything. Unfortunately, when 3 dogs got hits to the same point and no lead-aways, not sounding too promising.

Be careful of the hazards.

Dan
Not looking good but there is still a bright side. It could be something else that is dead.

The dog we used up at Priest Lake went nuts over a 20 year old target and 350' of water. Now that is a nose in the knows:D

People didn't believe me when I said depth has no bearing on the sent. It will be slightly more diluted but it still has to come to the surface.

Gary D.
 
My daughter just called with some new evidence on this missing person.

They have found a note in his vehicle that reads; Movie, Feran, Death.
The interesting thing is they have found 2 movie stubs from the night he went missing.
Feran? Could that mean “Fernan Lake”? It is only a 30-minute walk from where he was last seen.
Death, who knows at this point?

The dogs are hitting but not constant or very strong.

I know the SS is not going to be available for a few weeks but we just may try scanning Fernan Lake later on.

Gary D.
 
Hey Gary,

Not to be disrespectful, but I am really curious to know, if someone plans to off themselves later that evening, what movie is so interesting that he just had to see it before he took the plunge?? :confused2 (assuming that's the case)

Hopefully he will show up at home and explain that he had a near-death experience and it has made him realize "how stupid he has been" and how blessed he is to be normal & healthy and have someone that loves him. But we both know the odds of that.

Best of luck with this case, do the safe thing.

Amy
 
AmyinWV:
Hey Gary,

Not to be disrespectful, but I am really curious to know, if someone plans to off themselves later that evening, what movie is so interesting that he just had to see it before he took the plunge?? :confused2 (assuming that's the case)

Hopefully he will show up at home and explain that he had a near-death experience and it has made him realize "how stupid he has been" and how blessed he is to be normal & healthy and have someone that loves him. But we both know the odds of that.

Best of luck with this case, do the safe thing.

Amy
My daughter told me but they didn't ring a bell. One of the two was a space move.

She is getting me a timeline of the past couple of weeks and they should be on that and I'll post them.

He has tried to off himself but failed several times. He is so strung out on Meth he couldn't tell you if it was day or night.

The last time he was seen was headed for Tubbs Hill with a bottle of Booze.
Here is the paper link: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/idaho/story.asp?ID=27111
Here is the paper article from Saturday.

Family to scour Tubbs Hill
They want second look after police search fails to find missing son


Skip Frazier, center, points to a map of Tubbs Hill as he arranged plans to search for his son, Tyson, with the help of Gina Cangelosi, left, and Heike Lake, right. (Jesse Tinsley/The Spokesman-Review )


Missing son
How to help
» If you've seen Tyson Frazier since Sept. 7, call Skip Frazier, his father, at 765-9102, Mia and Mike Paul at 659-2103, or the Coeur d'Alene police tip line at 769-2296. Family will gather to search Tubbs Hill starting at noon Sunday in City Hall's lower parking lot. If you go, take a cell phone.



Cynthia Taggart
Staff writer
September 17, 2004

Tyson Frazier was such a good worker at Glenn Vaughn Restoration Services in Post Falls a few years ago that his boss, Glenn Vaughn, can't imagine him as a methamphetamine addict, down and out and suicidal.

"He was a good kid. I just loved having him around because he was so willing and such a hard worker," Vaughn says. "I hope to hell he just ran away."

Frazier, 21, has been missing since Sept. 7. He failed to return to the Kootenai County Jail from his work-release job. A warrant for his arrest was issued. After his car was found Sunday near Tubbs Hill with a suicide note inside, a search was launched.

Searchers came from the Coeur d'Alene Police Department, Kootenai County Sheriff's Department, Search and Rescue, Coeur d'Alene Fire Department, and the Kootenai County Mounted Posse. The hill was wet and treacherous, particularly off the trails.

"We were up there until midnight the first night, slid a couple of times," says Coeur d'Alene Police Lt. Don Jiran. "It's 135 acres and we combed it."

Two marine deputies checked the shoreline and a helicopter studied the hill from above. The hunt turned up nothing. Jiran says the official search is over unless more information surfaces. Meanwhile, Frazier's family exists in an agonizing limbo with no answers.

"It's hard to know what to think because we don't know what happened," says Mike Paul, who's married to Tyson's older sister, Mia.

So the family will search on their own until they find answers.

"The people who know him are sure he's up there," says Skip Frazier, Tyson's dad.

Family and friends will gather in Coeur d'Alene City Hall's lower parking lot at noon Sunday for a second search. Skip Frazier, a licensed professional counselor, is asking friends to help him scour Tubbs Hill for his son. Tyson Frazier's behavior patterns for years lead his father to believe he was serious about suicide.

"He did another suicidal gesture a month ago, went to Tubbs Hill with a rope and put it around his neck. He came home crying," Skip Frazier says in a monotone. "There's a good chance he's there."

Until Tyson Frazier discovered meth in 2001, he was a focused kid with a quick wit.

But his meth addiction wore his family down. Skip Frazier pressed charges against his son several times after Tyson stole from him. Frazier hoped the legal system would force his son into treatment his family couldn't convince him to seek.

It did last year. Tyson spent six months in rehabilitation in Cottonwood, Idaho, then stayed drug-free for nine months after he returned home.

"When he was straight, it was wonderful," Skip Frazier says.

Six weeks ago, Tyson fell off the wagon. A couple of probation violations led to jail time and the work-release program. His failure to return to jail unnerved his family, but Skip calmed everyone.

"He's an amazing man. I'm super glad he's my father-in-law," Mike says. "He's stayed real super hopeful through the whole thing, even though everyone else gets frustrated."

Skip stayed in the park during the search. He says he appreciates the searchers' time and effort. But he disagrees with their conclusion that his son probably staged his disappearance to avoid going back to jail.

"Police don't know Ty. He was on the downhill side of a binge," Frazier says. "He was despondent, despairing. He didn't have the mental capacity to put together a plan."

Skip says Tyson also never disappeared from home before for more than three days, even when he knew his father would turn him in."His only crime was stealing from me, but I got him busted," Skip says. "Still, he always came home even though he knew I'd report him."

That's why Skip needs Tubbs Hill and the surrounding area searched again. He needs an answer, even if it's one that will break his heart.

"We'll have a little bit of peace if we don't find any evidence," Paul says. "That will make us think maybe he did run off."


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I feel for the family on this one, I've seen alot of lives torn to shreds over meth, not a good way to go. Any more luck with the dogs?
Lets see how did that go?... If I had my way we'd round up all the dealers, find a big tall tree and a short peice of rope. :hanged:
 
It's over, he's been located.

All I know so far is that he was found hanging deep in the trees, not that close to the water (maybe a hundred yards) on the hill side.

We also found out the sent article the dogs have been going off of was an article of his that his girlfriend had been using. Talk about confusing. They've been trying to track her and not him.

My daughter said he was close to the scoreboard for the ball fields (in the pic). If you look close at the field closest to the water you can makeout the scoreboard. I'll know more and post more later.

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2582&y=26398&z=11&w=1

At least the family can have some closure now.

Gary D.
 
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