Pneumothorax or not?

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Uncle Frank

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Hello all - this my first posting on Scubaboard. It would be nice if the subject was not so serious but needs must. Around two months ago I was injured in an assault. One of the wounds I received was a stab wound in the right side of my chest - this did NOT penetrate the lung at all but did penetrate the pleural cavity slightly. Since then I have received conflicting advice from doctors about my future fitness for diving - two of them have said that diving will be no problem however one has said that because my medical record describes the wound as a pneumothorax that I must never dive again. I have all the xrays - does anyone know who I could turn to for a definative opinion? Any feedback would be most welcome.
 
Call Dan, Divers alert network.

I had the same exact Injury from a car wreck, and have no Problem diving and getting cleared to dive By a Diving Doctor!!

I am not A Doctor, But I think this is Bull.... ( Quote ) one has said that because my medical record describes the wound as a pneumothorax that I must never dive again.)

The concern as I understand it, is the scar tissue, and because it was the Cavity and not the lung itself, There is no scar Tissue on/in the lung To worry about!!!
 
I am not A Doctor, But I think this is Bull, "...one has said that because my medical record describes the wound as a pneumothorax that I must never dive again."

Based on what the OP has reported, it certainly does appear that this particular doctor could greatly benefit from some training in diving medicine.

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
QUOTE=Uncle Frank;5726602]Since then I have received conflicting advice from doctors about my future fitness for diving - two of them have said that diving will be no problem however one has said that because my medical record describes the wound as a pneumothorax that I must never dive again.[/QUOTE]

Hi Frank,

Pneumothorax, commonly called collapsed lung, is a collection of air in the cavity between the lung and the chest wall. This gas exerts pressure on the lung so that it can no longer expand in its normal manner.

Generally, it is spontaneous pneumothorax that is a contraindication to diving, largely because it could recur, and the recurrence level can be alarmingly high in some groups. Should this happen u/w, it could be fatal.

The condition you sustained is termed traumatic pneumothorax and occurs following a blunt or penetrating injury that disrupts the cavity surrounding the lungs. Obviously, the recurrence of the traumatic form of pneumothorax is more far predictable than is the case with spontaneous pneumothorax as prior to the insult to lung the expectation is that it was basically healthy.

In general, the diver with an unremarkable helical CT of the lung area and normal pulmonary function testing, and who otherwise has healthy lungs and good health, is a candidate to return to diving. Of course, he should first receive clearance from a pulmonologist who has a basic understanding diving medicine.

You and your pulmonary specialist may find the following excerpt from the below referenced article to be of interest:

“Cheng J, Diamond M.
SCUBA diving for individuals with disabilities.
Am J Phys Med Rehabil. 2005 May;84(5):369-75

”Pneumothorax can be spontaneous or result from trauma. Spontaneous pneumothorax can be associated with structural abnormalities and lung disease (21). It is a strict contraindication for SCUBA diving because the underlying cause may still be present at the time of diving (20). Many individuals who have disabilities resulting from traumatic events have had pneumothoraces. Traumatic pneumothorax, however, is not a contraindication provided that the injury is well healed.”

If you have additional questions, you and your physician are free to contact DAN America by email at https://www.diversalertnetwork.org/myaccount/mscc/emailmedic.asp or by phone at +1-919-684-2948 (Mon-Fri, 9AM-5PM EST). The DAN Asia-Pacific website is at http://www.danasiapacific.org/

BTW, I notice that you are from Adelaide. As such, the following facilities or doctor may be of assistance:

-Adelaide Hyperbaric Unit ((08) 8222 5116)
-Morphett Vale Family Practice ((08) 8384 7977)
-Dr. Alex Jaksic (Christies Beach (08) 8384 2900/Shiedow Park (08) 8322 2455)

Best of luck.

DocVikingo

PS: Please let us know what is done and decided. It helps us learn.

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual and should not be construed as such.
 
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Hello all - this my first posting on Scubaboard. It would be nice if the subject was not so serious but needs must. Around two months ago I was injured in an assault. One of the wounds I received was a stab wound in the right side of my chest - this did NOT penetrate the lung at all but did penetrate the pleural cavity slightly. Since then I have received conflicting advice from doctors about my future fitness for diving - two of them have said that diving will be no problem however one has said that because my medical record describes the wound as a pneumothorax that I must never dive again. I have all the xrays - does anyone know who I could turn to for a definative opinion? Any feedback would be most welcome.

Uncle Frank,
First, I'm sorry to hear about your injury - hopefully this is an isolated event!
An injury that penetrates the pleural cavity but does not injure the lung should not keep you from diving, especially if you've made a complete recovery and have no other contraindications. It's technically a pneumothorax, but it's in a different category from spontaneous pneumo and traumatic pneumo that penetrates the lung parenchyma. I recommend that you see a diving physician. I know the rules in Australia are a bit more stringent, but from what you've said, I think you'll be fine.
Best regards,
DDM
 
I agree with Doc Vikingo and DDM -- a simple traumatic pneumothorax from penetrating trauma, with minimal or no damage to the underlying lung, shouldn't affect your fitness to dive at all, once you are completely recovered. Assuming the history is accurate, I would not even require the testing that DV described to clear you to dive.
 
DocVikingo probably meant to say "helical CT of the lung". Sorry to hear about your injury Uncle Frank.
 
Ditto TSandM, not even sure a CT would be necessary in this case considering that there was no lung injury to begin with. Guess that's up to the Aussie docs though...
 
Thankyou all for the feedback. I got in touch with DAN a few weeks ago and spoke to one of their members who recomended that I have a high resolution spiral CT scan. Since then I have been too busy to follow this up - forever is a long time and at this stage their is no rush. I am going to contact them again soon and will keep you all posted.
 

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