PADI Rocks!!!

[Adobo]

As was pointed out to me in a PM and the way it was presented to me, the purpose of DIR and the purpose of a PADI OW cert are for 2 related but different things. PADI OW is for vacationers who want to venture into the water to play. DIR, on the other hand, was for more serious divers who felt like they needed more discipline because of the more dangerous nature of their diving.
Isn't this the case? I've sent numerous PM's about DIR because I really am only beginning to understand what DIR is. I know about PADI because of my current DM candidacy, and yes, it has some shortcomings but my personal PADI training has been very fun if nothing else. It just seems like the 2 are for fairly different scenarious and diving sites/circumstances. And, if a DIR diver was on a boat full of PADI or any other certified divers that are simply diving for fun, I would hope that the seriousness would take a lesser notch and the fun factor would come in...

It might be better to discuss some of these topics in a different thread.

 

[diverdowndh]

Did I step in number 2... lol!

 

[MikeFerrara]

As was pointed out to me in a PM and the way it was presented to me, the purpose of DIR and the purpose of a PADI OW cert are for 2 related but different things. PADI OW is for vacationers who want to venture into the water to play.

If this is so, PADI never told me. I dived for some time without any formal training or certification. Once I did get certified, I took every class that I knew about because I wanted to know everything there was to know about diving. I'm not much of a tourist and I hate to travel.

That was before I was on the internet and before I got into technical diving (which was sort of like the underground of diving society) and all I knew was the dive shop, PADI and the tripe you see in the dive rags. I never had any plans of being a vacationer.

DIR, on the other hand, was for more serious divers who felt like they needed more discipline because of the more dangerous nature of their diving.
Isn't this the case? I've sent numerous PM's about DIR because I really am only beginning to understand what DIR is. I know about PADI because of my current DM candidacy, and yes, it has some shortcomings but my personal PADI training has been very fun if nothing else. It just seems like the 2 are for fairly different scenarious and diving sites/circumstances. And, if a DIR diver was on a boat full of PADI or any other certified divers that are simply diving for fun, I would hope that the seriousness would take a lesser notch and the fun factor would come in...

DIR is a system...a team protocol. GUE teaches the system but part of that system is just plain old good solid dive skills that are of value to anyone who gets in the water. "DIR" may include good trim, buoyancy control and propulsion skills but those skills aren't exclusive to DIR.

As far as I can tell, the GUE courses like DIRF or rec triox, while laying down some basics of DIR are more focused on the basics of diving. Divers at that level aren't so much learning DIR as they are learning to dive.

IMO, the tourist stuff...just get them underwater breathing to see the fish, hopefully without killing themselves, is underwater breathing and not diving at all.

 

[diverdowndh]

Well, you know, there are diff'rent strokes, as they say. My opinion definitely comes from a very land-locked state so all I've ever seen were people who wanted to learn to dive... almost invariably before a vacation somewhere warm by the water. I'm sure that is different elsewhere as you point out Mike.

 

[Blackwood]

Well, you know, there are diff'rent strokes, as they say. My opinion definitely comes from a very land-locked state so all I've ever seen were people who wanted to learn to dive... almost invariably before a vacation somewhere warm by the water. I'm sure that is different elsewhere as you point out Mike.

There is nothing about the philosophy/methodology taught by GUE that precludes it from being used in warm waters.

(florida = warm water, more-or-less)

Or, perhaps better stated, there is nothing about "vacation diving" that makes "DIR" principles irrelevant or superfluous.

However, as was stated, this thread isn't the place for a recap of a million others

 

[diverdowndh]

Man, hard to not get in deeper at every post <grin>. Absolutely no offenses intended, I'm sure there are DIR divers that vacation too! I'm all about diving vacations, and seriously thinking about taking the DIR-f class at a minimum after my DM is finished... just to be more informed.

 

[JeffG]

Man, hard to not get in deeper at every post <grin>.

Thats because you post an opinion on something that you either misunderstood or were misinformed.

Par for the course I would say.

Example:

And, if a DIR diver was on a boat full of PADI or any other certified divers that are simply diving for fun, I would hope that the seriousness would take a lesser notch and the fun factor would come in...

 

[Adobo]

Did I step in number 2... lol!

No, it's not that. DIR itself is a controversial topic which could easily take this thread in a different direction. I suspect the OP's intent wasn't really to start yet another discussion on the virtues of DIR.

 

[diverdowndh]

And to be honest, there are just too d#mn many of you that take it so seriously you post things towards me... towards me!
If you read my post(s) JeffG then you'd see my disclaimers that I am trying to understand - I'll obviously never be at your level so pardone' moi! I seriously hope that I never post things towards someone such as your very rude reply...

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[deepblueme]

IMO, the tourist stuff...just get them underwater breathing to see the fish, hopefully without killing themselves, is underwater breathing and not diving at all.

So then what is diving ? If not breating air underwater ?
I am confused.
I thought that some part of SCUBA related to breathing underwater.

You know in 20 years of diving I never got tired of hearing this, My way is the right way and you suck cuz you didn't learn what i think you should, Blabber. Then I joined this fourm and boy some of the people here.....