PADI Holds The New World's Record for Fastest OW Class

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dlndavid:
hey did you change your name from Instructor Steve?

Nope, always been me that I recall :)

Is Instructor Steve missing?

I've also seen another Scuba_Steve-ish or two around here as well.

I think folks are having a hard time keeping us straight....
 
Just checking, you kinda post like him.
 
Scuba_Steve:
I think folks are having a hard time keeping us straight....

You should wear a "I LUV PADI" badge and slap on a couple of similar stickers on your twins to prevent this confusion :)

V.
 
caseybird:
. . share air early in the dive, to maintain a safe reserve in the big breathers tank. . .

*sigh*. Sounds like a great intro to a new thread in "Accidents and Incidents".

What happens when Mr. Big Breather "runs out of air" and wants yours again? "Sorry Mr. Big Breather. I don't have enough to for both of us anymore. You aready used that when we started."

It is not dangerous. It is using common sense. Of course, some people don't believe in common sense. Don't need it if you have rules.

Common sense? My common sense tells me that I'll be saving my emergency gas for an emergency, not to make up for my buddy getting a tank that's too small.

However this is really between you and your buddy. You can take whatever risks you see fit.

Terry
 
ReneeC:
While I am not a real fan of quick classes ....
I recently was on a Royal Caribbean that offered this class and I got up bright and early out of curiousity and watched the pool session.

Hopefully this was not the exception - the students were motivated, attentive and knowledgeable and the instructor was very competant, patient and thorough. The pool skills were drilled until perfect and I was impressed.

Later in the day I talked with the students and they were hard at work restudying the materials. Basically they took the cruise for the course and were devoting their entire week to it. I've seen far worse in traditional classroom settings.

Thank you for your response ReneeC. My wife and I were both previously certified divers(NAUI) and decided we would start diving again after 10 years SI. We went on a Royal Caribbean Cruise and took the PADI OW certification course. I honestly can say that this 4 day course(2-classroom and Pool sessions and 2 days shore dives with 2 dives each day) was every bit as good as our first certification course. We learned all the required skills and the instructor did not end the class until every student coulld demonstrate each skill several times both in the pool and in OW at depth. I was very impressed with the course structure and especially impressed with the quality of instruction. I really am sorry that there are so many people on this board that are allowed to bash organizations based on their limited experiences and hearsay. They really are not doing any good for the dive industry IMHO.
 
Hooked-Again:
I really am sorry that there are so many people on this board that are allowed to bash organizations based on their limited experiences and hearsay. They really are not doing any good for the dive industry IMHO.

Free speech is a wonderful thing. It means I dont have to be seek permission from someone to speak my mind. Just as I might be viewed a bashing with limited expereience one could say you are praising based on limited expereinces. If you allow one, you have to allow the other.


As to hurting the dive industry, I really don't give a hoot about the dive industry (meaning the agencies and suppliers who profit from the training of new divers) as much as I am concerened for the safety of the divers who are learning from these same profit oriented organizations. Where does it say, that as mere divers, we are somehow responsible for promoting the dive industry...it can take care if itself.

People who advocate change for the sake of improvement are not bashing, they're contributing to the industry. It's the dyed in the wool partasans, who despite repeatedly receiving simular feedback, dig in their heels for their sake of profit line who refuse to even consider that their training methods are not perfect could be improved upon.

Board discussions like this do not hurt the dive industry. A newspaper headline that reads "Diver Dies during training dive" hurts the industry. Unfortuantely those headlines are becomming more frequent.
 
Storm:
A newspaper headline that reads "Diver Dies during training dive" hurts the industry. Unfortuantely those headlines are becomming more frequent.

I have been hearing this refrain on scuba forums for the last 15 years. Do you actually have any *objective* stats to back that up that statement?

Vandit
 
vkalia:
You should wear a "I LUV PADI" badge and slap on a couple of similar stickers on your twins to prevent this confusion :)

V.

Yeah baby, now you're talking!!! LOL

I am seriously thinking of it now that you mention it.

Not being the artistic type, I'm open to any logo's.

.
 
vkalia:
I have been hearing this refrain on scuba forums for the last 15 years. Do you actually have any *objective* stats to back that up that statement?

Vandit

A province in our country has slapped restrictions on diving due to, as they say anyway an inappropriate amount of deaths on certain wrecks. So they slapped the restriction on diving everywhere.

The worst part about it is it's truly bogus and won't help a bit.

What Storm is saying, as well as myself, is that any death, besides the personal loss, carries with it the eye's of the province. There's nothing stopping our province from following the same silly route, so if we keep the accidents down, and we can,we may not have to deal with this nonsense.

Even our respective agencies agree with this.

Is it getting worse? Well, deaths are up over the last few (7-8) years from what DAN says. It may be statistically irrelevant, but it's not going down either.

Regards
 
Just completed 2 day padi cert with my fifteen year old son in 2005 ,I made him (my son)complete the workbook and I completed the computer based classes before hand . When the class was scheduled there was 6 people in the class and two instructors that ran the class, both instructors went from person to person and both stressed the importance of completing each skill properly ,the class consisted of recovering the material in the book , question and answer sessions about saftey and common sense issues related to diving then we covered the book test sessions , then another question and answer session then finaly after all that they gave us the final exam. In the water there were two people in the class that had some trouble with the required skills and after failing several times the instructors told them that they couldn't pass the class and that they would work with them more at some other time ( they left). They wouldn't just pass someone and didn't . Both instructors advised the class that OW Certs are the beginning and that ADV OW should be the next step and actual signed four of us up to continue on with there classes. I spent a few years around some very qualified (Navy EOD) divers and have had a mark 5 on my head and truly know the meaning of hose down the diver. Those guys opinion means alot to me and they recommended Padi
 

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